I’m called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Murasaki Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other? History teaches us that we have all been, and always will be - great

read the whole thread, her responses are even worse

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It is sad both, our lack of good high quality LW-space sneers so we are falling back on sneering at Musk-space sneers, and the fact that for all her proto-white nationalist white exceptional racism she cannot even pick the common LW type ones, makes me wonder if she just has never heard of HBD yet, or didn’t get it. Also makes me wonder if she is aware of the white nationalist trick people like Jared Taylor like to pull. Talks a lot about white culture, and only scarcely mention that he thinks white culture is a product of genetics. I also will not call her a nazi, as I think the tragic time of the nazis is over, and we are now in the farce era of the neo-nazis. ;). (Also I can be a bit pedantic and not sure this is enough yet, but sadly I often am proven wrong about these kinds of things).

Reminds me of how Musk has read/heard about some of the AGI LW stuff but just simply doesn’t seem to get the complex parts of it, so he starts to say making AGI not kill humanity is easy just program it to have soft hands and not kill everybody.

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Talk a lot about white culture, and only scarcely mention that he thinks white culture is a product of genetics.

I remember in the early days of the “culture wars” as far as political agendas going, hearing about “white/ethno-european pride,” and being naively curious, I actually tried to engage these people on the topics of European culture and history, and found exactly zero engagement on these topics. Just politics abusing people’s confusion of heritage with people’s internal shame and lack of identity.

The paradox I’ve always found is that the more secure in your identity and heritage you are, the more happy you are to share, grow, and widen that. Maybe a hot take, but growing up in the south, alot of people there hide their personal internal shame and confusion in aggression and identity politics.

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There was the white nationalist guy who when asked about which white culture should be saved just said ‘metallica’ which always struck me as typical.

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oh I’ve found many fine sneers right there on LW, but I think this one is good enough for sheer prominence.

i would not assume Grimes was aware of things or had what could meaningfully be called political opinions

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Yeah, I didn’t mean it as a bad sneer, I meant it more like how incredibly bad Musk/Grimes etc are at the basics of all this. LW stuff needs you to read and dig, and they just go ‘well im a socialist, I just don’t believe workers should have any power’. (does explain why the lowest common denom cryptocoin scammers target musk fans).

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Ridiculous takes from children on the internet throwing a tantrum aside nobody I’ve ever known has been accused of being a Nazi.

Which is not to say I’ve only known good people; rather that you can behave in some pretty odious ways and people still distinguish between racist shitbag and Nazi.

So umm what the fuck are people that complain about being called Nazi’s admitting to? If they’re actually being called out it’s sure as shit not because they like cathedrals and soccer or whatever.

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I’m just assuming it was in fact just a ridiculous take from a child throwing a tantrum because it makes the whole “I’m not a nazi, BUT…” bit that much more unprompted and funnier.

Like I know famous people get all kinds of bizarre shit on the internet but if some rando DM’d to call me a nazi I would simply choose not to let the public know I actually just love white culture.

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That would be pretty hilarious. someone’s like “hey Billy, check out this prank: @Grimes you’re a Nazi” and she reads it and involuntarily starts shouting “Arbeit Macht Frei”

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I don’t trust musicians that I learn about via something other than their music and even after 4 years of knowing who they are I remain uncurious to sample any of the music they have created.

If a musician’s music is never heard, are they still a musician? If they are not a musician, and not a nazi, then what are they?

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in contrast, I did not forsee the trajectory of Grimes’ views and personal life events after finding “Oblivion” to be a bop in 2012

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@Shitgenstein1 But in retrospect…

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Interesting point. I listen to virtually every kind of music that there is and my only interaction with Grimes has been to backspace over the “s” as I search for grime music like Manga Saint Hilaire or whatever. For a long time, Courtney Love was in this state for me, but I eventually listened to a little of her stuff.

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Hole is actually great. A big portion of modern indie rock owes a lot to them IMO.

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white culture

personality like lutefisk

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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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