I’m called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Murasaki Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other? History teaches us that we have all been, and always will be - great

read the whole thread, her responses are even worse

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Me, a nazi? Preposterous, no nazi would idolize ancient warlords or cultural works from Japan.

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I remember reading a story where a solid boot-neo-Nazi idolised Zulu warriors, then finding out that idolising Zulu warriors was an OG Nazi thing

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Leni Riefenstahl went off to like Sudan after the war to photograph indigenous people there.

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Hitler was pretty jealous of the Japanese ethnostate that came after decades of their trade embargos.

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She’s 35 and her sum total understanding of culture and race has lead to this. I think she has been effectively a Nazi from way back.

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OTOH, she also has said things like that she’s a socialist but believes in free markets rather than government intervention, so it’s probably fair to say that she’s not the sharpest egg in the attic

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she’s a lying fascist. “nah I’m actually the socialists and here’s what real socialism looks like” is one of the oldest moves in the fascist playbook. she’s very bad at it, but it still did its job and convinced a lot of folks who don’t know any better that she was the leftist who would fix musk by giving him dmt or whatever

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Real socialism has a little nationalism in it

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Ok sure, so she’s an idiot nazi then, and has been for a while.

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Can you honestly say there is any other kind of nazi?

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I think, I feel sorry for her, in the kind of I don’t really endorse or have anything to do with sort of way.

She is the limit of what happens when you idolize certain people, are betrayed by certain people, and never grow from that experience.

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you’d think she was some sort of trust fund baby artist white woman

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The implication that there is or has ever been a monolithic “white culture” is idiotic. It is one of those assertions where the left and right horseshoe towards falsehood and depravity. That is to say both the Klan and extreme progressives agree there is a magic all encompassing definition of “whiteness”.

This concept itself is racist because it assumes Ashkenazi Jewish, Nordic, Russian, and Irish cultures are identical in some way, when they obviously aren’t. “The shared amount of relative pigmentation in skin” doesn’t culturally unite people, nor does it account for their shared values and traditions, or lack thereof.

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I understand how “white” become the word for a sort of assumed racial default, but it’s really annoying to have to play this weird motte-and-bailey when people don’t understand or pretend not to understand that whiteness is not about skin pigmentation and never was. Wanna check my skin on a Pantone chart againts Hitler’s and then guess which one of us he thought was merely an “honorary aryan”?

I wish we had a better word for it.

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“Italian” was excluded from “white” in the US in living memory

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I mean, we don’t consider Italians white too over here, but we also don’t think there’s some kind of “white culture”. I’m Flemish and that’s my culture, and it’s definitely not the same as any other Western European culture.

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extreme progressives agree there is a magic all encompassing definition of “whiteness”.

What do you mean by this? Speaking for myself, what I’ve read on the left with respect to “whiteness” has been largely critical of the concept, e.g. that it exists by its function to other and marginalize those deemed non-white. Who are you talking about on the left that affirms a non-reductive concept of whiteness? Because it sounds like you’re both-sides-ing out of ignorance.

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It is one of those assertions where the left and right horseshoe towards falsehood and depravity

just wait til they whip out their horseshoe-shaped chart. then you’ll understand that one mastodon ancom is exactly equal to one nazi skinhead in terms of both falsehood and depravity

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@mctoasterson @dgerard and it doesn’t even acknowledge the changing boundaries of “white”. The Irish weren’t white in America for decades. Jews weren’t white until post-wwii when “polite antisemitism “ became tainted and had to be discarded in the face of the civil rights movement.

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@mctoasterson @dgerard the only thing white people have in common is high albedo.

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Why the hell would anyone think about Cyrus the Great every day, let alone fondly.

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Isn’t he the one that the US Religious Right used as a rationalisation for a philandering president being an instrument of God?

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Someone minted a souvenir half-shekel coin with both Trump and Cyrus on it. Heads, you lose.

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“Thanks” for introducing me to a new level of insanity: https://www.temple-coins.com/products/copy-of-trump-and-bibi-netanyahu-coin-grey-silver (Cyrus is on the obverse, so there’s some weird right-wing Israeli hangup on him too)

Edit here’s the link to the abomination above and more

https://www.temple-coins.com/collections/temple-coins

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Please note that empires were actually invented by A Brown, of whom I think fondly every day. Therefore I am not a nazi.

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Yes, if you are a “white pride” kind of person people are probably going to call you a Nazi. Thats exactly how it works.

I’m skeptical she thinks of Cyrus the Great every day but I hope it’s true because it’s really funny.

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Alphas think of the Roman Empire every day. Sigmas, however, think instead of Cyrus the Great.

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