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I feel like I’ve been forced to switch a lot of my default applications lately based on shitty decisions from tone deaf companies. I guess I’m going to move from Brave to Firefox finally.

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Made the switch recently myself and can never look back. Being able to install custom add-ons on mobile is a huge plus to me

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Brave is also associated with Peter Thiel and if there is one person to get the title of Evil Tech Bro, it’s him.

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Never heard anything bad about brave privacy, you got sources?

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Why did you chose Brave to begin with? Serious question, not being snarky. I tried it for a day and it just didn’t compete with Firefox + uBlock Origin in any meaningful way. I don’t see the appeal of bundling advanced security and filtering tools with the browser, it’s better if they’re separate entities, keeps everyone honest.

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I’ve taught multiple people in my life to use brave. The vast majority of end users simply can’t be bothered to install a plugin or understand how to manage it when a site breaks. Brave makes it just a little more intuitive for them and means less IT calls for me. Firefox with ublock is what I personally use. Brave is what my family uses.

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Brave is just as likely to “break” a site as uBO, what do they do then?

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Huh… That’s an interesting idea. Best argument for brave I’ve heard too

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7 points

Moving browsers used to be moved the webpages now…it’s a massive deal now.

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115 points

Extremely common Firefox W

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103 points

Stop using chrome. Absolute cancer of a browser

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Chrome is fine. It’s Google what’s evil.

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Chrome IS Google.

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Chrome is a chip off the old block, in addition to just being the worse browser anyway.

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@Llewellyn @ilovecarrotjuice Chrome is in now way fine…

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You could say the exact same thing about YouTube and it’d be just as wrong.

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Even if I go along that line of thought, few years ago when I was using Chrome it started scanning my computer without any notice, causing the fan to run hard.

I stopped using that creepy POS immediately and switched to Firefox. Never again a browser can just make a decision to scan my computer to “protect” me from whatever.

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Yes, agree

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That’s why they want to make it a web standard, so they can just blame Firefox and others for not following the standard and avoid EU fines.

That’s what Microsoft did with their office document standard.

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Yeah, the sad thing here is that if Apple comply, it will basically become a standard and there’s nothing that Firefox or anything else can do about it. If they can get it on iPhone, it’s game over. Half the web will be blocked unless you agree to see adverts.

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If they can get it on iPhone, it’s game over.

While this is true, I struggle to understand how Apple would stand to gain from implementing this unless it had already become a widespread standard. It’s also an opportunity for more privacy focused marketing if they oppose it, just like they do with government attempts to force them to implement backdoors into iOS.

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I doubt they will.

Apple already has the Private Access Tokens that Cloudflare has been working on making into a standard, primarily for skipping captchas. Google doesn’t like those because they are too private.

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14 points

I doubt the EU would buy that.

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5 points

I am afraid EU can be too dumb to not buy that!

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If it’s an actual official web standard, they might have to.

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Good thing Google is not a recognized standards body

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I have limited understanding of the technical side of this issue, but based on this comment, this sounds like a brilliant move by Google - Don’t like the rules of the game, change the game…

Edit: for clarification, this comment was very tongue in cheek - I don’t support Google, this was just an acknowledgement of a smart business play.

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an acknowledgement of a smart business play.

When politicians do it, it’s “corruption.” When normal people do it, it’s “crime.” When capitalist parasites do it, it’s “smart business.”

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While I have issues with the rules of “the game”, the current rules are better than the changes that Google are proposing, but since they are infinitely more powerful than me, I can only hope whatever body (W3C?) does not make it an official standard. As long as it’s just an extra thing that Chrome/Chromium does, there’s still hope for Google to get into legal trouble.

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We need to stop this capitalist brainrot. It’s not a smart business move; a smart business move would be one where everyone wins. This is a lazy and evil move designed for pure extraction of value and coercion of compliance.

Live the way we want you to (and we take 30% off the top!)

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Gj mozilla

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