92 points

Imagine having Windows installed in 2024. /s

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Most people are tech illiterate. Ask them anything but to use a pre installed system or pop in a CD that was given to them (No they canā€™t burn one themselves) and theyā€™ll fail

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36 points

With all the UI changes on every version in the last few years that simply isnā€™t true. Windows is becoming harder and harder to use even if you know what you are doing, much less if you donā€™t know half the computer related terminology.

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8 points

Actually, not really. Itā€™s becoming more like what a smart device would look/feel, which is what most people are accustomed to anyway by now. Sure, options and settings get removed left and right, but that is not a concern for your every day Joe. They just need something to do their taxes in or watch a movie or play a few dumb clips on YT, thatā€™s it. Oh and of course it comes preinstalled with the computer, so they can do all that out of the box, great!

You ask any person that uses MS Office whether they like the pre-2007 menu layout (1997-2003) of Office or the new (post-2007) menu layout, youā€™ll always get the same answer, the post-2007 is better. Why? I really have no idea, but they say itā€™s better. Maybe itā€™s the thing with the icon buttons, or just having a ribbon with the most used tools, IDK. My point is, LibreOffice uses the pre-2007 classical layout. For most people, this is confusing. I find it simple and elegant, the way a GUI text/spreadsheet editor should look and feel. But, than again, Iā€™m with computers since I was a kid, so drop down menus are not a new thing for me. People rarely use any menu thatā€™s not a full screen one (or at least one thatā€™s big enough to take away at least half the screen). Why? IDK, but I think smart devices are to blame for that.

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Unfortunately, Windows becoming better and better. You can literally run Linux while running Windows (thatā€™s why coders still use Windows) and now you can even remove pre installed bloatware. Can you imagine? They even copy KDE look!

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26 points

I canā€™t imagine walking around and just assuming everything is a magic black box and not have the slightest curiosity about how something works.

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11 points

Believe it or not, not everyone is intersted in tech. Most people just live out their lives oblivious to how stuff works.

Like me for example, I have almost 0 interest in medicine. The human body is not exactly a black box to me, but I donā€™t usually remember deseases names and stuff like that, even though some people remember all those things without putting too much effort into it.

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3 points

Except for the fact, that you do that to plenty of other disciplines of life. It is simply that some people need a computer to work, they donā€™t need one as a hobby. They donā€™t want to ā€œlearn a new thingā€ they want their machine to output some calculations in excel. Same as you donā€™t learn woodworking when ordering a table from Ikea, or learning medicine when going to a checkup.

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10 points

Imagine having a CD in 2024 /s

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0 points

Yeah, itā€™s a DVD now, right?

ā€¦ Right?

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2 points

No, thatā€™s ChromeOS. Windows still assumes some knowledge that you may take for granted, but someone whoā€™s never used a computer before might not know.

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2 points

The point is that this is Linux community and majority understand that there is basically no reason in using Windows. But there are proprietary exceptions like games and stuff. I donā€™t have Windows on my machine for years and Iā€™m perfectly fine without it.

Iā€™m not talking about ā€œmost peopleā€, because they all have been brainwashed by Microsoft and will refuse in adopting anything different than Windows. It comes pre installed basically everywhere.

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Personally Iā€™m not tech illiterate; Iā€™m just too lazy to reboot every time I want to hop on the decks and do some DJing or music production. Or play one of the few games that wonā€™t run on Linux. Or watch something in HDR.

I wish there was a way to instantly jump back and forth between OSes with a key combo, without having to resort to any sort of VM fuckery. Like how for a brief moment in the 90s you could buy an expansion card for your Mac that was an entire Windows PC on a single board. You do exactly what I described: instantly go back and forth between Mac and PC without having to close any programs. We should find a way to make that a thing again.

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Regarding DJing, there is support now for quite a few MIDI DJ controllers in Linux, you should look and see if yours is supported šŸ˜‰.

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The easy solution for that is a kvm switch. You have two pcs, and switch between them with a button press, keeping the same mouse, keyboard and monitor.

Best use is for personal PC and work laptop, but if you specifically want to switch between linux and windows pcs, then it should be fine if you use that.

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1 point

Stop enabling normies, make them become tech literate or send them back to the stone-age (preferable).

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Thatā€™s not enabling, itā€™s just how people areā€¦ most people anyway. They wonā€™t become tech literate of you send them to computer classes or tell them they need to learn stuff. Most people are lazy when it comes to using their brain. Itā€™s just how things are šŸ¤·.

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61 points
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6 points

You donā€™t sound so bad for pushing 120!

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57 points

Skill issue. Canā€™t click a Windows entry if you donā€™t have one!

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57 points

You guys have windows partitions?

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12 points

I keep dual windows on laptop for rare occasions cuz I donā€™t like dealing with passthrough for special USB cables that require their own drivers on VMs

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6 points

Yep, pretty much the same reason, just have to use it, mostly because of software that interacts with hardware, in one way or another.

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1 point

USB cables require drivers? šŸ‘€

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3 points

Well USB to serial port to some weird custom 6 pin connector for a certain machine.

Or car data link adapter

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1 point

The ports do, itā€™s just that theyā€™re built in every kernel nowadays.

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7 points

Not on bare metal, for this reason

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2 points

Need for interacting with hardware, so yeah, have it on bare metal, plus in a VM.

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Any reason you canā€™t just pass the hardware through to the vm?

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2 points

Always use a condom to interface your bare metal and windows.

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I do. I wanted to finish something there that I couldnā€™t easily move to Linux. A DVD project using files scattered accross the system in DVDStyler. I didnā€™t notice DVDStyler works on Linux.
Now I am basically keeping it due to sunk cost fallancy. It has lots of menus and videos, plus some of them I cut myself. But I donā€™t even remember where I ended. There was also something about color limitation in menus I wanted to fix. I last shut it down during an update about 2-3 years ago.
But who knows, maybe later at some pointā€¦

But I could really use those extra 400GB. I only have 15GiB free right nowā€¦

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4 points

I installed one when I made my first Linux PC last month in case I needed to use Windows for anything that wouldnā€™t work fine enough on Linux.

One month later and I still havenā€™t used it for anything. I think I may have underestimated how fleshed out the Linux ecosystem is these days.

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Iā€™ve been delaying moving my root arch patition from my HDD to overwrite my old windows install on my SSD for months.

I feel like the potential problems that that could cause arenā€™t worth the better loading times from the SSD.

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41 points

Canā€™t click on Windows, if have no Windows šŸ˜

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