A massive operation is under way to find and save a stricken vessel and its passengers. As time passes, anxious families and friends wait with growing fear. The US coastguard, Canadian armed forces and commercial vessels are all hunting for the Titan submersible, which has gone missing with five aboard on a dive to the wreck of the Titanic in the north Atlantic. The UK’s Ministry of Defence is also monitoring the situation.

It is hard to think of a starker contrast with the response to a fishing boat which sank in the Mediterranean last week with an estimated 750 people, including children, packed onboard. Only about 100 survived, making this one of the deadliest disasters in the Mediterranean. Greece and the EU blame people smugglers, who overcrowd boats and abuse those aboard them. But both have profound questions to answer about their own role in such disasters. Activists say authorities were repeatedly warned of the danger this boat faced, hours before it went down, but failed to act.

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I’m glad this article exists; this has been bothering me. Specifically, I’m bothered that, while aljazeera featured the stories about the boat of refugees as and after it was happening, I haven’t seen it crop up in U.S. news at all. One of the deadliest disasters in the Mediterranean, and… crickets.

Then a submersible with a handful of white rich lads gets lost and it’s all over the papers and all anyone can talk about.

To be fair, part of this is the fact that the submersible story has a lot of wild and novel details to it, plus the novel “oh god imagine being trapped in a submarine” fear factor, that make it great for getting attention and clicks, but nevertheless.

The other part of it is that people see “poor, brown refugees drowned at sea in the Mediterranean, once again” and feel completely disconnected from that and glaze over. The refugees don’t get the same automatic “what would that feel like if it were me” empathizing, and the situation doesn’t get the same scrutiny of rescue details and chances and what exactly went wrong that resulted in hundreds and hundreds of innocent people drowning at sea.

And they were in a BOAT. They knew where the boat was. The boat was reachable. They just let them die.

It’s true that we’re talking about different countries and different organizations, but this is a recurring pattern. Refugees are being systematically and repeatedly allowed to drown when they are very near to people who could help them. Other people get prioritized and rescued like they’re kings.

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Systematically being the key word. There is no way to claim that what keeps happening to boats carrying migrants is accidental. It’s a policy decision. So awful.

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It is a policy decision. And sadly, it is a pretty popular one. Rescuing these people would mean that the rescuing country needs to grant them asylum. Doing so would incentivize more refugees to choose this dangerous path as it would be a passage to Europe.

This is one of the reasons why the far right political parties in Italy are so successful. They promise Italians that they would stop this type of immigration. And the rest of the EU accepts this quietly because it solves their own issues with immigration.

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It’s infuriating. I think that tacitly allowing people to be hurt or die for personal/political gain is one of the worst things a human being can do. And yet so many people - from fascists to liberals- seem to be on board. It’s so normalized. It’s the same at every border. Completely preventable. Completely unnecessary. Insane that “I don’t want those people moving here so let them die instead” is seen as a normal and politically centrist take.

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while I certainly think the affluency of the victims is a factor it would be disingenuous to claim this is ALL it is.

For any regular occurrence, at some point apathy sets in. Car accidents are just not interesting to report after the hundreth time. If there were a dozen lost subs near the Titanic every year, I’m sure the story would lose it’s luster too.

There’s also the aspect that refugees are an ongoing and much more complex issue. You can’t just save one ship of refugees. There will be another one in short order. And if you do save them all the question is what do you do with them? At the very least that’ll cost you money. At worst it’ll cost you political power. Are you going to realize what these people have gone through to get them to a point where they are willingly face these risks? Realizing that maybe something should be done about that is even costlier. And depending on the political landscape in your country most will just consider this “a self solving problem” anyway.

This is not to excuse what we’re seeing. But we can’t pretend that the stories should be covered the same. They aren’t the same. One is much easier to cover than the other.

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I see your point but just for the sake of discussion, try and change “refugees” with “people”.

You should notice how all the other considerations simply are not worth the electricity used to transmit them on your screen.

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I agree with that. As I already said, what I wrote was not supposed to be an excuse but an explanation.

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These people aren’t citizens of the same countries though. Their country apparently didn’t want to do anything and hoping random other countries take care of you is not a great plan. Countries have a duty to their citizens first, and nothing about the migrant situation helps Greece other than somehow convincing them not to come. The migrants are creating an emergency and expecting someone to come save them. Europe (nor the US) can’t take care of their citizens right now - look at the news. Expecting them to expend resources for random other people is a fools errand.

And if it was just picking them up and dropping them somewhere safe like it would have been with the submarine that would be one thing, but that’s not what you’re asking is it? You want them to be taken in for the rest of their lives and likely supported while you have all the other problems expressed in this thread.

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For better or for worse, news outlets care about engagement. “50th boat full of migrants lost this year” won’t get many clicks. “Billionaires in trouble under the sea” will. If you think these type of stories are under-reported, feel free to start your own blog or discussion forum.

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I’m so tired of governments bending over backwards to help billionaires while ignoring average people

I’m so tired of valuing people based on their net worth. these double standards are disappointing and honestly disgusting. I’m disgusted by our current politics and economics

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Well, on the bright side, if there is a successful rescue the rescuees can afford to pay the bill. And they should be held to it.

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undefined> I’m so tired of valuing people based on their net worth.

You mean like you just did?
In case you care, which you’ve already indicated you don’t, there are more researchers on the submarine than billionbaires.

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You mean like you just did?

“actually, you’re the one valuing people on net worth for pointing out the things we’ll do to accommodate billionaires but not for migrants” is such a piss take it’s not even funny

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From what I’ve read there’s one researcher on the sub, two members of one of Pakistan’s richest families, an “explorer” who rode with the Amazon guy into space, and the CEO of the company that thought their submarines were too advanced to get categorised/certified for the depths they visit.

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Don’t forget that the CEO also bragged in a video that the sub only has one button, is controlled by a cheap wireless logitech controller and he bought parts of the sub from camping world.

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You should look more into the story and into the occupancy before you start taking random moral stances cause you want to be rich one day.

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One group is full of hundred-millionaires. The other group is full of destitute people fleeing their home countries due to horrific conditions.

Given that capitalism does put a price on people, that’s obviously the metric used to determine who to help.

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28 points

Genuinely surprised by some of the comments here. This is worth discussing and I’m glad the writer of this article drew attention to it.

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Today, you could drown an entire cruiseship of Romani and most of Europe would cheer.

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