The man that should stop Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
It’s stunning that he can say and do so much… terribleness… and still even have a chance at the presidency (again).
it’s a race to the bottom, and liberals are so attached to biden for some reason they seem to actively want him despite the fact that some random state senator would be a safer bet. if we get fascism I’m putting some of the blame on bidenbros
It’s the two party system and electoral college that causes the “lessor evil” effect. We’ll have to address that better next time.
Edit: autocorrect gave us an electric college!
We’ll have to address that better next time.
is what we’re told every single time for decades and this is the result. maybe it’s time to break out plan b (before it’s banned in texas)
Has there ever been a current president that the party has not put up for re-election after their first term? The decision isn’t really up to me as a pleb Democrat, it’s up to the party in Washington D.C. on who they want to represent the party in the election. When given the choice, I’ll vote for anyone over Trump.
I just haven’t seen the evidence that some random state sentator would be a safer bet.
The unfortunate reality is that there are still too many voters who will vote for a centrist old white man over Trump, but would not vote for a young progressive over Trump.
I didn’t like it in 2020 either, but the Democrats did what they needed to do to beat Trump.
the dems seem as helpless to run this geriatric conservative as the gop are to prevent an actual fascist dictator wannabe from successfully running for office.
how can both these massive parties suck so fucking hard
Because voting in the primaries seems anathema to the young progressives who want to change.
That’s a comforting story but completely unsupported by reality. Look at the exit polls from whatever state you like. The under 30 crowd gets outvoted by 2-1, sometimes a 3-1 margin!
(This gets even more embarrassing when you realize that while the two groups are about the same size of the electorate, the elderly are less likely to vote Democratic, so as a share of potential Democratic voters the 65+ is beating the brakes off the under 30s.)
“Buh… buh… Biden won South Carolina!”
Yeah… and how did that work out?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_South_Carolina
Trump - 1,385,103, 55.11%
Biden - 1,091,541, 43.43%
I couldn’t believe people using the South Carolina primary as the reason Biden should be the candidate. Since when do we let red states decide who the Democratic candidate should be?
I’m glad I’m a progressive that votes in the primary. I plan to vote in more progressives myself.
i dont… i kinda think were all fucked. the only action possible here is to just keep voting lesser evil.
i used to hope, but that runs out after the first few decades
They way to fix things is voting reform. But it can’t be just any reform.
We have to ditch Ordinal voting systems. Every single one of them leads to some degree of two party dominance, with voters having to prioritize strategy over their own needs, because not doing so means they will be actively punished.
Cardinal systems are the only way to escape. Strategic voting becomes less necessary and less impactful.
My current favorite system is STAR. It takes all the great ideas of the best cardinal voting system (Score) and adds in an automatic runoff that greatly reduces the impact of clone candidate attacks.
A no holds barred Yu-Gi-Oh match. Winner becomes president, loser cleans the white house bathrooms for the next 4 years.
I believe you’re under the mistaken impression that u/originalucifer is actually running one or both of these parties.
The Democrats are generally a fairly ineffective ally on good days. The Republicans are an effective enemy every day. It’s not an equivocation to say those are both crappy options.
uhhh no.
“both sides” is pretending both suffer from the same issue… i have clearly not made that case
uhhh yes.
“both sides” is presenting them both as equally bad… you have clearly made that case
I’m pretty old. Biden is hands down the best president in my lifetime.
He’s way older than I am, which is a problem, but he’s also a national hero for beating Trump in 2020 and making the win stick, which was more difficult than it seemed.
Since then he’s been great on jobs, infrastructure, defense, and a host of other issues. Not that I agree with him on everything, but to call him a run of the mill conservative Dem, as some do in these comments, is almost slander. He’s an old-school Democrat who survived all the way through the Reagan revolution. The old-school Dems ran the country for almost 50 years from about 1933 to 1980, and did a pretty good job.
In 2020 I was 100% behind Liz Warren and disliked Biden. I thought he’d lose, but this year I’ll gladly vote for him. If he beats Trump for good, they’ll be making statues of him.
I have never approved of the person I voted for president
Except the chess piece doesn’t honestly care what you think and a couple thousand people in flyover country can put you in checkmate regardless of how you move.
Voting is more like beating your head against a wall. If enough people join you then you might just move the building. But don’t expect it to feel good afterwards.
I fundamentally disagree. If this was at all true, Republicans wouldn’t still be working so hard to make it difficult to vote in red states.
The point isn’t for your vote to feel good; if that’s your end goal, you are naive. The point is that it’s strategic to an end, something the Fascists understand quite well.
Untrue. Look at the midterms, where we were supposed to have a “red wave,” which wound up with places like Michigan having a Dem majority in all three chambers and Republicans getting only a very thin majority in the US House, or all the people who voted for “not-Trump.”
Strategic voting absolutely works.
Yes, welcome to politics.
