The former president is still feeding the Christian right’s persecution complex
In recent campaign stops and on social media, Donald Trump has reprised lies aimed at inciting his Christian-right base against Joe Biden. These tirades, centered on the false charge that the Biden administration is persecuting Christians, aren’t just Trump’s typically dubious claims. Much like Trump’s lies about a stolen election, they are designed to immerse his loyalists in a grievance-laden alternative reality in which Trump alone can rescue them from an evil government threatening their freedom.
In a Dec. 19 speech in Iowa, for example, Trump pledged, “As soon as I get back in the Oval Office, I’ll also immediately end the war on Christians. I don’t know if you feel it. You have a war. There’s a war.” Speaking just after the Colorado Supreme Court disqualified him from appearing on the state’s GOP primary ballot, Trump tied this “war” to his own legal woes. “Under crooked Joe Biden, Christians and Americans of faith are being persecuted and government has been weaponized against religion like never before. And also presidents like never before,” he added. “I always say Al Capone was treated better than I was treated.”
Trump has promoted the theme of Christian persecution in the past, but is elevating it again as these legal issues mount. His clear purpose is to deflect attention from his own criminal liabilities by insinuating that the same Biden administration he falsely claims is unfairly targeting him for prosecution is similarly persecuting religious Americans.
Fucking retards at all of his rallies lapping the slop up.
Do you know what “War on Christmas” really means? It means “everyone who isn’t a Christian should either conform to us or get the fuck out of this country because it’s a Christian country.” Which is one of the reasons that all of us who were born here, maybe had ancestors here going back generations, whose only “crime” was not being Christian are regularly made to feel like we’re foreigners in our own homeland. I didn’t celebrate Christmas growing up in religious Indiana. I was treated like shit for it. There’s no war on Christmas. There’s a war against people who don’t celebrate Christmas or even just dare to say they aren’t big fans of Christmas. Enjoy our holiday our way. Or else. That’s the war. And they’re the ones waging it.
We should be allowed, in “the land of the free” to not want to take part in Christmas for any reason be it another religion, psychological issues, it’s too commercial, you think Santa looks stupid, whatever, and not be given shit for it by these MAGA assholes trying to force their theocratic will on all of us.
What’s even better is that Christmas isn’t even a religious holiday (not in the way they think it is). The current version of Santa was created by Coca-Cola in the 30s iirc and Jesus’ birthday would have actually been sometime in the summer or early fall. Basically, Xmas as we know it here is less than a century old and originally had nothing to do with Jesus or any other religious nonsense.
Xmas, Easter and more have been preempted by the catholic church. They were originally pagan holidays based around the seasons, the sun, etc
You’re mixing things up a little. Santa wears red and white because of Coca Cola advertising. He used to wear all kinds of crazy colors. Jesus’s “birthday” is celebrated in December to coincide with winter solstice celebrations that already existed in Roman times. It’s hard to tell when it “should have been”, but there wouldn’t be shepards outside with their flock at night in December. Maybe Spring.
The shepherd at night is probably a red herring. Shepherds stay out at night during lambing season which is February-April in Europe and North America but November-March in Israel
Santa also used to put things like coal in people’s shoes when they left them on the front stoop. Saint Nicholas" colors also vary from country to country. I am specifically talking about the USA here as that is what this is about.
Ye exact details don’t really matter because it’s all history at this point. What matters is that neither xmas or easter or whatever other holiday the church took over, isn’t as old as time and the original version of it was nothing like how we see it now. Basically, the church can get fucked and we should take this shit back.
Who’s with me to start celebrating winter instead of Xmas, fertility instead of when a mythical person supposedly came back to life after being killed for speaking about peace and love? Does any of that sound familiar? Jesus was a got damn hippy, I tell ya hwat.
Christmas isn’t just for christians. It is also important to the state religion: capitalism.
Hey, we also have the American civil religion
No. “War on Christians” is a test balloon that went over well in Bumblefuck Anywhere so he’s using it now. It used to be “Mexico will pay for the wall” but now it’s this. Back in the Gee Dubya days there was a news cycle - it’s very specifically pin-pointable, like one week it started; where gays were going to get married and make us all marry gays and oooh bad.
Same shit. Different fear wand. Old, old bullshit. Works every time on ignorant people. Democrats will sometimes try this with actual fears like “they’re going to drive the economy into the ditch” but it never works the same. It’s never got the enough stench of sheer panic and maniacal idiocy when they do it. Also Democrats aren’t as reliably susceptible to it so it’s also kind of pointless there.
It’s not necessarily that they want to impost Christmas on everyone. Sure that’s a by-product.
What they want is not to feel like their holiday is being attacked. Something as simple as “Happy Holidays” is seen as a threat to their personal beliefs and they feel attacked when people use it. So if you don’t say anything and just say "have a nice day they don’t care. But as soon as you say something triggering like “happy holidays”, they flip out.
Because they feel attacked, they feel justified in forcing others to say Christmas.
Again, fully manufactured rage for the purpose of maintaining what they feel is right.
No fucking way that’ll happen.
Just like no way he’d get elected to office? Been there, heard that argument.
He will get into office again, by hook or by crook.
These loonies will vote for him in a solid bloc happily, because he’s promising them what they’ve always wanted: a chrisofacist state where only the ‘glorious word of the lord’ is law. At this point, with that offer, they’d vote for the Devil himself.
And the rich arseholes backing Trump will do it because their beliefs hold that the Jews all need to be in Israel and then they can kickstart the apocalypse and all get into heaven, and that will be easier to do if they’re in charge of a mindless, dogma-following religious ‘government’.
Yeah and Trump said he’d drain the swamp and make Mexico pay for the wall. Hes bad but I cannot stand watching the same people tell me the president isn’t a dictator when they can’t do things with a slim majority, but somehow they genuinely expect Trump to somehow rally the political capital to be able to march democrats off to camps on day one. It’s delusion that matches what red maga thinks about democrats. Tell me how Trumps gonna march citizens off to camps when Biden can’t pass an infrastructure bill through a majority without removing 2/3rds of it. The math doesn’t math and its pure emotional propaganda. Either the president has that kind of power and Biden should have simply leveraged it to hold Trump responsible for what has been legally proven insurrection, or they don’t have that power and lots of people here are scare mongering.
Ok… There’s a whole lot of fuckedupedness in Trump’s statement, and in this comment section…
The “war” he’s suggesting does in fact exist, it’s a real thing, but the intended targets are Christian by happenstance… The persecution involved isn’t persecution of a group being identified as Christian, it’s persecution of a group identified as what is probably best described as “trumps circle”.
He’s projecting persecution of himself, and his close associates, to a religion that isn’t the actual target at all…
It’s a complete head fake… A sham… And everyone’s addressing it as though they already accept that it’s an actual fucking thing, on both sides… Y’all are commenting on this as though Christianity is actually relevant… It’s not… The blue team isn’t persecuting Christianity, they’re persecuting trumps crew, who just happen to be Christians…
C’mon guys… Don’t buy this fat fucks bullshit… There’s enough people that’ll do that on purpose already ;)
Christians have been crying about their persecution fetish for centuries, he didn’t just make it up out of the blue. He’s conflating that with the “” ““injustice”” “” that has been inflicted on himself personally in order to rile up the fundamentalist Christian base, who are an overwhelming percentage of his supporters.
As someone born and raised in the church, lemme tell you there’s a LOT of Christians who will absolutely see this, nod and say “yes of course Trump is saving us from the evil war on Christianity”. There’s a frightening amount of churches out there who do preach that Christianity is persecuted worldwide and we’re constantly under attack, but our time to strike back is JUST around the corner. He might be projecting, but between this and his weird messiah-complex video from last week, his campaign knows exactly who their target is, and the worst part is that there’s more of them than you’d think or want to believe.
Everyone needs to calm down. He is widely known for not ever doing anything she says he la going to do.
This is pandering for votes. Nothing more.
Like the keystone pipeline? Or judges to remove roe v wade? Shut up. You’re dangerous.
You horsefly think he can do this? My god people will believe anything. No wonder we’re where we are now.
