Been seeing a lot of outrage thrown at them recently their protests and been seeing a lot of people trying to disrupt these protesters for “disrupting” them and that they could cause inconvenience to emergency services but at the same time,I feel as though these actions are necessary sort of to better spread the message since the bourgeois media is going to turn a blind eye to it. So, since I’m not really familiar with the whole thing, I want to see what you think of them.
Just Stop Oil is linked to oil heiress Aileen Getty. I suspect it’s entire purpose is to make climate activists look bad and take attention away from affective actions. https://nitter.net/SarafromMI/status/1581002787617284097?t=UQFqNtm68odaoQKKKNee1Q&s=19
Well spotted. Their actions don’t seem to do much beyond being loud and obnoxious, and their goal is also their name and their slogan. No organization that takes itself seriously would define everything about itself in 3 words.
*No serious socialist organisation
The benefit is that every time they’re in the news, people hear the slogan, ‘just stop oil’. I don’t think they’ll be very effective in the long run. But at least they’re keeping the topic in the press. Like, Greece is on fire, and all we hear is how holidaymakers are going to get home; the MSM won’t connect the dots to global warming of their own accord.
This is actually from a strange article made by the Telegraph in October last year that went “viral” in similar lib tabloids to try and play both sides of dunking on the activists. Getty is a co-founder to the CEF which donates to a bunch climate activist groups including XR and JSO, but was singled out by tabloids as the sole source of income for the groups. I haven’t found much to either confirm or dispute her claims in never engaging in oil herself, but it does seem like a usual billionaire philanthropy grift.
But I wouldn’t throw the whole movement out just because some billionaire is donating to it. It sounds a bit like a “yet you live in society, curious.” At the end of the day it is a lib org through and through, we shouldn’t expect any different. If ssome people think activists “look bad” because they blocked a road or threw soup at a protective glass with a painting behind it, I don’t want to see what they’ll think of riots.
True, good point. I still don’t see their approach become successful because from what I gather it’s just “raising awareness”, I’d hope by 2023 people are aware of climate change. I really feel for the young activists who are a part of JSO because they are trying to do something to fix the situation and are met with so much hostility from the public. To me it does come across as a way to drain young socially aware people’s time/energy away from useful actions and towards actions that won’t have any outcome.
The best approach for climate action is through workers & unions organising, eg: https://youtu.be/J5Whs9IsTds
Should probably read this, my friend.
She simply inherited oil money, she never had anything to do with the now defunct oil company her family ran. She seems to be trying to use the blood money for good. Obviously, she’s a lib though.
The funny thing about the people that call JSO a psy-op, is that the real psy-op is in having people like you unwittingly spread this propaganda.
I’m curious, did you see some reactionary say this on twitter and believe it without doing a single google search? Surely you didn’t, right?
Kids doing something they believe in while everyone else is arguing about whether they are causing too much of an inconvenience.
Meanwhile the planet is on fucking fire, both literally and figuratively.
The “white moderates’” hostilities against activists of any kind because they cause inconvenience or because the truth is uncomfortable, have always plagued movements like these.
The critique doesn’t come from an honest wish to see the movement succeed, they just want activists out of sight and mind.
Edit: And at least JSO are regularly drawing attention to one of the two big climate issues. The other being animal agriculture.
Much of the outrage is manufactured or astroturfed. For example, I wouldn’t call myself a tweeter, but I did create an account recently just to observe (morbid curiosity, if anything). So I follow a few JSO people. I never see their tweets directly. Instead, what Twitter shows me are the outrage videos about just stop oil. So the Twitter algorithm prioritises the negative responses over the organisation itself, even when one follows the organisation, but none of the people responding. Twitter is amplifying the negative voices. The mainstream press does exactly the same. Then the press uses Twitter as evidence that ‘everyone’ thinks JSO are wrong. In turn, Twitter platforms the press as evidence. There’s a powerful feedback loop that cuts out the supportive voices.
Do I support them? They seem to be quite harmless but they are keeping climate change in the news cycle (even if it’s bad coverage). They won’t achieve anything more than that, unfortunately. It’s equivalent to asking politely.
For the people who are genuinely outraged, LMFAO. This is nothing. Assuming that 99.9%+ of the people are from the imperial core, if they think JSO is disruptive, there’s a rude awakening coming.
Just wait till we’re five years down the line and: the roads are washed away or flooded; everything’s on fire; the tarmac is too hot to drive on; surprise snowstorms close highways all year round; millions of people living in coastal homes flock ‘inland’; floods drive millions of people out of homes that property developers built on floodplains; billions of people are displaced and move to the north, where things will be ‘safer’; jobs disappear because global supply chains start to disintegrate; jobs disappear because workplaces are unbearably hot or unable to operate under water.
This is just a tiny selection of the shit that’s coming this way – in a part of the world where, we know now, people think wearing a mask or standing a little bit away is far-too-high-a-price to pay for other people’s health and safety. Those snowflakes getting upset at these milquetoast protesters – it’s going to get tedious hearing them complain, ‘Why didn’t anyone warn us; I’ve lost everything’ while their insurance company puts them up in a hotel.
My opinion is that it’s a waste of time. Oil won’t be stopped unless a whole lot of people get a whole lot more comfortable with the idea of putting rounds in oil execs, really soon. The feedback loops have already started, and will only speed up as they continue to occur.
At least the name is terrible and reeks of liberalism
