Films that may have flopped but not because of you, because you did your part and bought a ticket.

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Dredd and John Carter. In both cases the film was tanked by marketing (or lack thereof).

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I absolutely loved Dredd when I finally got around to seeing it at home. The visuals made me wish I had seen it in theaters. It was so viciously and grotesquely beautiful.

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Dredd was a great movie. It’s an apology to the fans after the Stallone movie.

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If they had just called it “John Carter of Mars” it would have at least communicated a major plot point. It was a really ambitious attempt to reboot a classic science fiction novel, but since nobody remembered what Barsoom was they were at a disadvantage.

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I still maintain that while not the same disaster as a film that it was as an investment, John Carter was muddy, its source material was past its sell-by date, and it topped out at “okay.” I’m not at all sure added marketing budget would have made enough additional fans to have made it worthwhile.

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The John Carter source material was so old that I imagine the movie was championed by dinosaur executives who remembered loving it when they were kids. Their underlings were afraid to say no.

That probably isn’t how things went down, but it’s my head canon.

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IIRC it was a passion property for Andrew Stanton, who was coming off of one of the most insanely good Pixar resumes in an era of amazing Pixar resumes.

Unfortunately, when something is old and influential, a modern audience is going to have seen things influenced by it for decades, and the original can sometimes become a kind of “inside baseball” that only appeals to the passion of people who are into the historical context of their fields.

Nobody is making millions off of Citizen Kane or Metropolis.

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I really enjoyed Waterworld.

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I don’t think The Emperor’s New Groove did well in the theaters, but it is one of the best Disney movies of its time.

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Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo & Stitch were also two of the last few times Disney put out something original. The last two decades of Disney releases have mostly been franchises they’ve bought from others or remakes of older Disney films that weren’t even their original stories to begin with, e.g. Star Wars, MCU, 20th Century Fox, Pixar, a majority of Disney classics.

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Funnily enough it did fine at the box office but because it was positioned at the end of Disney’s “golden age” and made noticeably less than any other Disney movie of the era, they pivoted away from it to the point where many people assume it’s a DreamWorks or Universal animated flick.

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“Army of Darkness” a movie I still pick up and watch once a year.

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Given that there were 2 TV shows with the same tone, and a whole Evil Dead reboot thing, it’s safe to say that Army of Darkness has gotten it’s fair praise.

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Not critically acclaimed by a long shot but I really loved Speed Racer when I saw it in the theater.

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I’m confident in saying that Speed Racer is the best Wachowski film.

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That’s the first one that came to mind for me too! Kid me absolutely loved it in theaters, and it only gets better with age. It’s so stylistically out there, there’s really nothing that looks quite like it.

Another one of my favorites was Tron: Legacy. Again, blew my mind in theaters, and I’ve come to love it even more now. I don’t think this one was a flop exactly, though it did underperform. It’s similar to Speed Racer in that it’s very visually-focused with a super unique aesthetic, though the emphasis on practical effects and physical camera stuff (lens flares etc) gives it a completely different feel that I love too.

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I watched Tron Legacy in the theatre, I thought it was really good, the soundtrack was amazing but as soon as I left the theatre I never felt like seeing it again, maybe it was just fine tipped over the edge by a great soundtrack?

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I saw Tron in the theater in 1982! How about that? I’d forgotten all about it, until just now that I read the word “Tron”.

There was an arcade next door, of course - they had the Tron game! A guy was playing like a wizard, I asked if he’d gone next door to see it, he looked at me and said - “I’ve seen it four times”. I wonder where that guy is now. Did he go into computer engineering or something like that, just at the right time when the industry was about to explode in size?

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I watched the cartoon a lot when I was a kid. I thought the movie did a remarkably good job capturing the bizarre tone of the show. It was a “weirdly campy, but serious at the same time” kind of tone. The film captured the strangeness too well, and I think that’s part of the reason critics didn’t like it. They just didn’t get it, and to be honest, I can’t totally blame them for that.

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