Lately I’ve been seeing posters here express some form of the sentiment that Hexbear has fallen from its previous heights of glory and now we post amongst the ruins of greatness. This is not a response to anyone in particular, and I don’t want to call anyone out. In fact, it seems to be a normal human tendency to romanticize the past. But I’ve been here since the beginning and want to provide an alternate view.

1. Hexbear just isn’t like it used to be.

This is one I am particularly suspicious of, since people started posting this after the site had been around for a couple of months. Before that they posted about how chapo.chat wasn’t like the old chapotraphouse subreddit. If the good ol’ days ever existed, they always seem to have been just prior to the current moment. If anything the site culture and vibe have been remarkably consistent since its inception, for better or worse. Faces have changed, people have come and gone and sometimes come back again, but Hexbear remains.

2. People used to be nice here and treat each other as comrades. Now there is just a culture of shallow dunks.

Seriously? Be for real. I’m not going to deny that we love a good dunk around here, but let’s not pretend that this is a new phenomenon. It’s a big part of the culture around here that predates the site and even arguably even the subreddit. You can be free to like it or not, criticize it or not, say its productive or not, but its definitely not a new development. There’s always been a lot of love and mutual support, but also a lot of vicious arguments intracommunity arguments here. If anything I think there’s less of this now. The early posters would laugh at what passes for a struggle session around here these days. The VCJ struggle session seemed at the time like it might legitimately end the entire site.

3. This site had the potential to be a place for organizing and building something rather than just posting.

This one is an interesting counterfactual. From the beginning there was no clear agreement on what the ultimate purpose of the site would be, and there were definitely people who saw the site as having revolutionary potential. There were also people who saw it as a place to hang out and shitpost among comrades and were skeptical of its potential for organizing. Over time, I think it’s become clear that we’re closer to the latter than the former. I’m okay with that, personally, but more than that I think it’s worth considering why despite having a lot of smart, determined people on the site, organizing never really materialized, or if it ever had that potential in the first place.

4. People used to post effort posts and stuff and now its just a bunch of shitposting.

It’s always been mostly shitposting. This is one of my first comments on this site. It’s hard to say if there really used to be more effort posts or not, but what’s stopping you from writing an effort post if you feel like Hexbear needs more of them? I’m doing it right now, and so can you.

One thing that really has changed is that we used to have more comrades actively working on developing the site. Hopefully more people will step up to do that (not me though because I can’t code).

In conclusion, Hexbear is mostly, for better or worse, as it always has been. Enjoy your time here without worrying about whether it measures up to some imagined glorious past. If there’s something you feel is lacking, step up and contribute it. This site is nothing more or less than the sum of our contributions.

43 points
  1. Hexbear just isn’t like it used to be.

Does anyone actually miss how Hexbear used to be? I’ve been here since day one, and most of my memories of the first twelve months or so are of endless drama, Kerryposting and people being awful to each other. Remember when people hated the mods so much that a lot of people called for “mod elections”, and then the mods called it a “colour revolution”? That shit was ridiculous. People on hexbear are really good to each other now compared to the chapochat days. Look at any of the trans threads, mental health threads, self-improvement comm, anywhere in the megathreads.

permalink
report
reply
8 points

personally my favorite memory was the vegan war because holy shit was it easy to dunk on carnist arguments, I was like fuckin Lebron James for an entire week until the mods had to shut it down because we were too powerful

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Oktherebuddy

permalink
report
parent
reply

When I first found this site back in 1999 by opening Netscape Navigator and typing “Can bears have more than five sides please?” into AltaVista, it was perfect. I think the Y2K bug hit this site particularily hard.

permalink
report
reply
14 points

hexbear was better when it was a bbs

permalink
report
parent
reply
38 points
*

This site was extremely aggressive and full of constant fighting and struggle sessions in the early months. The people who couldn’t just accept that this isn’t Reddit and your fellow posters should be given the benefit of the doubt either mellowed out or left and I think this place is better for it.

permalink
report
reply

It was filled with infighting for… a lot longer than that i feel

permalink
report
parent
reply

People are funny things. Change too much and they’ll say you’ve jumped the shark, change too little and you’re accused of being stale and outdated.

Honestly, I think we have a good number of silly and serious posts. Although I do want to start making more effort posts.

I think the problem with using Hexbear to organize is the danger of being doxxed. It can make it hard. I think more posts about union tactics and organizing, how to spot feds etc etc would be welcome.

This site does do good though. Particularly when we get together and donate money to our struggling comrades. I think what we do does help people, even if it’s not much.

If people want to get more serious I welcome it though, theres always a good reason to help people get some real praxis done.

Like you said, this site has survived so many crazy things. I doubt it’s going to die anytime soon. Hell, I’ve been here long enough to remember that people have been crying wolf about the site since day one, lol.

permalink
report
reply
35 points
  1. This site had the potential to be a place for organizing and building something rather than just posting.

It’s a place to go when something happens in the world and you need a sane evaluation of it, either found and posted or talked about in a comment. That’s what it is

permalink
report
reply
14 points

Hence why I’m here every day

permalink
report
parent
reply

effort

!effort@hexbear.net

Create post

Welcome to c/effort, the home of effort posts! This is a space where you can write on an topic, as long as it reflects real time and effort to put together.

Rules

Posts are text-only. No images or videos.

2.While the topic can be on anything, posts still require “effort”. While there isn’t a minimum word limit or anything, generally this means it’s longer than most other posts and there’s also that the expectation that your posts required real effort to write up.

“Master” posts that have a lot of links are welcomed.

No copypastas

Community stats

  • 151

    Monthly active users

  • 62

    Posts

  • 1K

    Comments