once again speaking for myself here, except where these sentiments have already been expressed by other admins. this is not a moderator document or anything, and it will not be stickied.

we have a ton of new people thanks to clearing a lot of our queue and i’m already seeing a bunch of the same issues we had to quash a week/two weeks ago with the first big influx. so, to reiterate:

we (the Admins) are four people, only two of which have actual experience running or maintaining anything in the same universe of what we’re managing now. running this instance is not–and cannot be–a full time job for any of us and our insistence is that it doesn’t become one. full-time working on this site would be financially and socially ruinous. if just us four admins were being paid a fair wage for the work we do, our Open Collective would barely cover the last two weeks. in any case we are not the only people working on this site and worthy of being paid.

we cannot currently (and may not in the future either, to be honest with you) accommodate a lot of what you might think we’re able to do, or expect because Reddit had it either through an app or the base function of the site. this is moderationally, federationally, and technically. neither i nor the other admins have the requisite experience with coding to contribute to the site, and we already have a ton of bug fixes to wrangle that have given our volunteer sysops fits. most of your issues are probably caused by and better referred to Lemmy itself than to Beehaw itself. i would strongly encourage you also post them to either !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml or the software’s GitHub if you think it’s a general functionality problem. in general: we cannot refer your issues elsewhere right now, you will need to do that yourself.

Lemmy, i want to stress again, has very limited base functionalities, many of which our admins and sysops are trying to work around. those constrain us in what we can do or how. a lot of options we have at our disposal to make stuff run are binary, and a lot of the not-binary options are confusing. we have had to hack around a lot of these while waiting on permanent solutions in Lemmy itself. this is our current list of moderator functionalities we’d like to see.

we also cannot be perfect, and if you’re expecting perfect then i don’t know what to tell you. you are on what is basically beta software, being hosted and supported by volunteers. right now, we absolutely and simply cannot promise much of anything past “the site is online and moderated in accordance with our values.” if you can’t hang with that caveat i would strongly encourage you to please go somewhere else, for your own sake.

48 points

Extremely valid, and I appreciate the clear communication and all the hard work you and the team have put in so far.

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Have had nothing but a reasonable bump here or there, I am absolutely thrilled to be here and hope that the expectations you’re explaining will finally be understood.

I’m close to someone spinning up a matrix instance and it’s absolutely a ton of work and knowledge and troubleshooting and problem solving and just goddamn duct tape and hope on some of this fediverse stuff.

Thanks so much to all the team for the work you all do and I’m sorry for the inevitable of flood of “know it all” posts from people barely able to sign in wanting you to “make it all like reddit”. 😩

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Thanks for always being so transparent with what’s going on with Beehaw! For my part the experience here has been great so far, and I appreciate the help I received when I reached out with an issue. It was above and beyond, really. I appreciate that Beehaw has different values than reddit, and look forward to seeing how this community develops. Please take care and don’t burn yourselves out!

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It’s kind of the defining line between “community as a product” and “community as a platform.” What is offered and provided is a platform for all of us to work together to build and sustain a community. What we’re used to is the other type, where there has always been a drive to monetize the experience. It’s like the fallacy that content creators owe their audience anything other than the content they’ve already provided. The people here running and moderating the community have my respect and admiration, because it’s not something I’d willingly step into, knowing the unrealistic expectations of most Internet participants.

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I’ve done my share of high up administration in game communities, I can attest based on that the amount of entitlement people feel like they have from a group doing something for free or nearly nothing is insane.

I say focus your time on the people worth your time. Don’t let toxic folks get to you, or you’ll just burn out.

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Probably kids who have no concept of how things work and are used to demanding whatever they want from their parents. Maybe we could make it an 18+ instance for awhile. Just ask a verification question only someone older would know.

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