Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

55 points

This is becoming a larger and larger ask as the states drift further apart in terms of rights.

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No one from California wants to move to Texas.

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That’s not really true. Most of California is very conservative, just not very populated. There’s probably a good number of people who at least would say they want to live in Texas, although they’d probably hate it once they realize what the state of California does for them.

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Most of the…land? This is the verbal form of “map more red libs get owned”

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Perhaps the first comment was worded poorly. It’s less populated in comparison to some of the most populace cities in the world. There’s a lot of Republicans in California who would probably say they want to live in Texas. There are just a massive number of people in California.

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pretty much exactly. we need to get a bunch of liberal people to move into those areas and push the rednecks and klansmen out

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The Central Valley disagrees.

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Sorry, coastal California ;)

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You know, where the people live

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San Diego is one of the biggest major cities with a Republican Majority and it’s in Cali. Now considering these are tech workers they may care, but I’ve worked with my fair share of tech libertarians. Especially here in Cali.

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They probably wouldn’t like Austin though.

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Thats a very generalized statement. Im sure theres at least one person who wants to move here.

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I’ll trade you a lefty for a neo-Nazi. ;)

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Its slowing down recently but in 2021 and 2022 it was a very popular topic and many people did move from CA to TX.

https://blog.smu.edu/dedmancollege/2022/09/12/why-are-californians-moving-to-texas-and-how-that-might-change-the-state/

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Well, lots of people move to Texas from all kinds of states. You could make an article about each one if you tried. Also, people are moving to California from Texas—and everywhere else. You could write an article about each of those places if you tried.

My point is, people who bleed blue don’t move to Texas unless they have to. And, with recent politics, Texas is a much harder pill to swallow for anyone left of center.

I’m sure the lefties in California would love to get rid of the righties. Maybe they could make a 1:1 trade, lefties for righties.

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And guess what happened in 23? A LOT of those people came RIGHT back to California lol

Perfect example: https://www.businessinsider.com/couple-moved-california-texas-back-santa-cruz-rosenberg-2023-11?op=1

Looking at census data: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/california-exodus-census-analysis-18509264.php

California was one of 11 states whose inmigration rate was lower than the national migration average of 19.9%. The data says that many of the people (44,279) who moved to California last year came from Texas. The second-highest number of people (31,225) who moved from a different state to California came from New York.

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More still are moving to places such as Arizona and Florida because Texas isn’t that cheap anymore. It’s not expensive now, but it’s not cheap.

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If they’re using this as a method to get employees to quit, then it’s gonna suck for the few that do move

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Well duh, now they’ll have to live in Texas.

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Its only temporary, those employees will be eliminated later under more lax labor laws.

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Are they expecting for people to just pack their shit up, and go? We have to stop letting these companies pretend that all the workers are just meat puppets

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Honestly, probably not. They probably want them to quit. This is a cost cutting measure that they don’t want to admit to publicly.

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Yep. Sounds like that to me. Even Apple can’t afford San Diego which is why OP’s WFH idea isn’t an option

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They want to force them to quit. Then they can move the office to Austin and rely on cheap illegal labour.

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Probably not illegal per se but definitely cheaper and easier to fuck over: Texas labor protections are functionally nonexistent

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The company reportedly told employees they can apply for other jobs within the company, though some doubt they’re qualified for other Apple roles in the city, and most don’t plan to move.

Sounds like it’s QA people. Which sucks extra hard cause that’s a much harder field to get another job in. If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters. I bet a lot of people will make the move and it’s quite shitty and cynical from apple to move a team that doesn’t have a lot of options.

If they tried to move an engineering team to texas, they know they’d get told to get fucked

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If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters.

Not with all the layoffs lately.
https://layoffs.fyi

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Go check out the net jobs over last year. Reality is all that happened is the folks let go work elsewhere for better companies.

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Very anecdotal, but I’m rather skeptical of that. Where I work, we haven’t hired in more than a year despite some decent growth. Seems to be quite similar for most of my circles, very little movement and hiring gojng on. I used to get harassed by recruiters 5-10x a week on LinkedIn alone despite being employed and listed as unavailable. Now it’s more like a cold message or two a month. Maybe it’s regional or something…?

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