Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

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A decade ago, a lot of folks would probably seriously consider this. Austin is a rad town and cost of living is cheaper than San Diego. Now moving to Texas could put you at significant risk if you’re a woman.

Apple, a company that likes to value diversity and inclusion, is apparently fine with putting its female employees in harm’s way for a tax break.

Of all the shit Apple has done, this is particularly disturbing.

Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.

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Austin isn’t even that much cheaper and property tax in TX is heinous compared to CA.

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Not cheaper at all, actually. They only discuss income tax when folks claim that.

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all the tech companies should move to another smaller city in a blue state all at once. turn Salem OR or something into the next big tech hub

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Welcome to Raleigh!

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Or build a blue city on the triple-border of South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. Property is crazy cheap there. It’s the perfect place for a big “blue utopia” city.

Because of those states’ small population, just a small number of Democratic votes there could yield three states’ electoral votes and six senators.

Republicans would lose forever if Democrats didn’t gerrymander themselves into the coasts.

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Bend OR has a decent sized Sony studio apparently.

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austin is crazy expensive now. it was already starting to get that way when i lived there ~ 25 years ago.

and i’d pick the san diego climate any day over anywhere in texas.

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You think it’s expensive now, but wait till everyone with all that California tech money rolls in and starts buying everything sight-unseen. And in cash.

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The average tax burden in Texas is actually higher than California. People see “no income tax!” and lose all ability to reason

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Wouldn’t be the first time conservative voters misunderstand taxes

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Even covering expenses still puts women’s lives at risk.

Sure if you get pregnant and early on decide you want one, they can help out, AFTER you divulge very private information.

But what about all the myriad of other scenarios where people need medical abortions in life threatening situations. You don’t always have the time to get yourself to another state, and then you die, or lose the ability to get pregnant again.

Sure its nice they offer it, but fuck them for putting women in that situation anyway. They don’t get a pass for covering costs when they can.

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With a 2% chance of an ectopic pregnancy, it’s a little like Russian Roulette if you’re of childbearing age, isn’t it?

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value diversity and inclusion

Bullshit.

They don’t give a shit.

It’s something of importance to their target demographic, so they play into it.

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Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.

And when the Texas government arrests them to keep them from traveling for an abortion, Apple will break them out of jail?

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Not saying this corporate policy makes up for Apple trying to re-lo people to the Texas. Just providing more detail.

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Bail money counts as expenses, I’d say.

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Sorry, values diversity and inclusion?

Yeah, if you include the slave labour that was literally chained inside their factories in China?

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Are they expecting for people to just pack their shit up, and go? We have to stop letting these companies pretend that all the workers are just meat puppets

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Honestly, probably not. They probably want them to quit. This is a cost cutting measure that they don’t want to admit to publicly.

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Yep. Sounds like that to me. Even Apple can’t afford San Diego which is why OP’s WFH idea isn’t an option

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They want to force them to quit. Then they can move the office to Austin and rely on cheap illegal labour.

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Probably not illegal per se but definitely cheaper and easier to fuck over: Texas labor protections are functionally nonexistent

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This is what a stealth layoff looks like folks.

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This is becoming a larger and larger ask as the states drift further apart in terms of rights.

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No one from California wants to move to Texas.

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Its slowing down recently but in 2021 and 2022 it was a very popular topic and many people did move from CA to TX.

https://blog.smu.edu/dedmancollege/2022/09/12/why-are-californians-moving-to-texas-and-how-that-might-change-the-state/

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And guess what happened in 23? A LOT of those people came RIGHT back to California lol

Perfect example: https://www.businessinsider.com/couple-moved-california-texas-back-santa-cruz-rosenberg-2023-11?op=1

Looking at census data: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/california-exodus-census-analysis-18509264.php

California was one of 11 states whose inmigration rate was lower than the national migration average of 19.9%. The data says that many of the people (44,279) who moved to California last year came from Texas. The second-highest number of people (31,225) who moved from a different state to California came from New York.

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More still are moving to places such as Arizona and Florida because Texas isn’t that cheap anymore. It’s not expensive now, but it’s not cheap.

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Well, lots of people move to Texas from all kinds of states. You could make an article about each one if you tried. Also, people are moving to California from Texas—and everywhere else. You could write an article about each of those places if you tried.

My point is, people who bleed blue don’t move to Texas unless they have to. And, with recent politics, Texas is a much harder pill to swallow for anyone left of center.

I’m sure the lefties in California would love to get rid of the righties. Maybe they could make a 1:1 trade, lefties for righties.

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The Central Valley disagrees.

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Sorry, coastal California ;)

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You know, where the people live

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San Diego is one of the biggest major cities with a Republican Majority and it’s in Cali. Now considering these are tech workers they may care, but I’ve worked with my fair share of tech libertarians. Especially here in Cali.

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They probably wouldn’t like Austin though.

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Thats a very generalized statement. Im sure theres at least one person who wants to move here.

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I’ll trade you a lefty for a neo-Nazi. ;)

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That’s not really true. Most of California is very conservative, just not very populated. There’s probably a good number of people who at least would say they want to live in Texas, although they’d probably hate it once they realize what the state of California does for them.

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Most of the…land? This is the verbal form of “map more red libs get owned”

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pretty much exactly. we need to get a bunch of liberal people to move into those areas and push the rednecks and klansmen out

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Perhaps the first comment was worded poorly. It’s less populated in comparison to some of the most populace cities in the world. There’s a lot of Republicans in California who would probably say they want to live in Texas. There are just a massive number of people in California.

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