The former president fired off a series of potentially defamatory statements as he arrived in court

As he arrived at a federal courthouse in lower Manhattan, Donald Trump’s Truth Social account released an avalanche of posts attacking E Jean Carroll, who is suing the former president for defamation.

A jury in New York City will determine what damages he owes Ms Carroll, whom Mr Trump defamed by repeatedly calling her a liar and denying that he sexually assaulted her.

It’s the second trial stemming from defamation claims brought by Ms Caroll, and a jury already found him civilly responsible for sexually abusing her in the 1990s. He continues to claim that he never met her and has repeatedly mocked and ridiculed Ms Carroll in the wake of that verdict.

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When I read these things I am tempted to believe more and more that all hope in humanity is lost. I can’t believe that our so-called allies in America are not able to recognize injustice and treat it the same way. Your society is finished - there is no other way to put it.

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I honestly don’t think it’s possible for them to change. Their democracy is done. They are now a warning symbol to the world. I know I’ll start looking into my own countries politics . I’ve been addicted to the shit show coming from the states. I do always wonder how more extreme it is in the news then what the average American sees.

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That’s right. The USA are a good example of the downfall of a democracy. Even the most powerful in the world; and all that for no good reason - maybe pure greed or hybris or whatever; i can’t make any sence of this. We can only learn from it. In any case, I am not prepared to accept this complete loss of any moral compass. A democracy should stand for all people. Not just for a few privileged ones.

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I truly hope the American Dad time line is correct. That Mexico and Canada will join forces to demolish America

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If he wins, we’re done. No doubt about it. However, if we hold back the fascists this election (this includes the House and Senate,) there is a real chance at landing a huge defeat to maga extremism in '26 and '28.

Yes, you should be paying attention to your local politics: right wing extremism is on the rise everywhere.

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14 points

Half of all Americans have an IQ under 95.

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In my opinion, moral decisions have nothing to do with IQ. I think that everyone is capable of making these conscience decisions. The question is rather whether if people are still able to decide things for themselves, given all the preconceived opinions that social media et al. dictates. This is not difficult in itself: you just have to decide what is right and what is wrong.

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IQ is also a greatly flawed measure of intelligence, I score higher than people I know are much much smarter than me.

I also score higher when I take ADHD medicine, does it make me smarter? Fuck no, its just easier to test.

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Empires have had an average lifespan of around 250 years. Outside of Rome which a case could be made that changes in its structure enabled it to last way longer.

Let’s just hope the fall of the American Empire doesn’t bring the whole world with it.

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2 points

Flood the zone.

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He really doesn’t know when to shut up, hopefully that will be his undoing.

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The more he opens his mouth, the more his rabid fans adore him.

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Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to have been the case his entire life so far.

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In large part - perhaps exclusively - because corporate news is utterly incapable of saying the basic truth. He’s a demented rapist fraud who can not stop lying.

They can’t say that! They can’t get close to saying that! And that is what gives him his rabid base.

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They can, but they just refuse to because they’re all afraid of losing access.

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He really doesn’t know when to shut up, hopefully that will be his undoing.

Yes, Donkey, you do have the right to remain silent.

What you lack is the capability…

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6 points

This man is secretly a socialist, as he is just giving away his money.

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44 points

It would be amazing if the jury said jail time would be more effective than another monetary settlement. Fingers crossed.

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31 points

I don’t think they have that ability.

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I would imagine it would have been much harder for his Loser routine if there was still a debtor’s prison. It wouldn’t be a standard way for him to do business.

With how many things he’s failed at and in a big way involving investors, customers, regulators, and the courts, it’s been amazing how he’s been able to get his hooks into the country. Celebrity truly is king in America.

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All it took was repeating bald faced lies about his business acumen on TV for a handful of years. Before apprentice, he was universally seen as the piece of shit that he is. So much so that he’s basically the archetype of almost every movie villain from the 80s and 90s.

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Just treat him like he was black. Charge him with contempt for anything, the way he is breathing is too loud, and set the bail for more than he can afford. $1.5 trillion?

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9 points

I guess the only hope now is to try and bankrupt him…again

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11 points

Well when one is a professional Loser like Trunp, another bankruptcy is no big deal. It’s par for the course.

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6 points

I mean, they can say it. It would be pretty funny.

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Sure, why not? I’m just saying it won’t actually put him behind bars.

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18 points

They don’t have that ability in a civil trial, but could they say that? Something like “Here’s the incredibly large amount of compensatory and punitive damages, which we still do not believe will suffice to prevent Trump from repeating this behavior. We believe that only detention will be successful in putting an end to this continuing defamation.”

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6 points

I suppose, but I doubt it would help.

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6 points

Even then. I believe they’re given a form letter and all they’re allowed to do is fill in the blanks. At least that’s what happened the one time I was on a jury.

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11 points

Just start calling in the new jury on the campaign finance violations he’s about to commit the second he has to pay the settlement. Those carry actual jail time.

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8 points

Money is the only thing he cares about. Keep the fines going up. We can call it the Trumping Point: the amount of money required to make a billionaire understand consequences. Then future fines to other billionaires can just start there.

For real though, imagine the orange apoplexy if he lost all his wealth.

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Spin up a website tracking the numbers.

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Honestly, this is the entire point of fines though. We need a system where fines are determined by your tax bracket or something, it shouldn’t be “ahh I can do whatever I want until the fines get close to $X million” it should be an immediate “oh i fucked up”

Otherwise, fines are just the cost of doing business.

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