"We won’t be collecting your saved passwords, passkeys, usernames, and any URLs associated with your items. Your private information is just that – private.

All event data will be de-identified and processed in aggregate before it’s used for analysis. "

It sounds like they plan on releasing the technical details in the coming days/weeks. I’m curious how its de-identified and processed.

14 points

Tough place for 1Password, who clearly want to be able to collect data to maintain a competitive edge, but have an audience of security conscious users who may not be comfortable with this. But as always transparency is appreciated.

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It’s also incredibly important to note that they are making this explicitly opt-in. So none of that ‘dark pattern’ mumbo jumbo with the tyranny of the default–where companies opt you in and most users dont realize they have to opt-out.

All in all they are going about this the right way it seems. The devil will be in the de-identifying technical details imo.

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Doesn’t join-lemmy.org do the same thing with telemetry? As long as this is GDPR compliant, then there’s no personal data to track.

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Almost every product tracks user behaviour. It’s how they utilise that data that should concern us. In this case, this doesn’t concern me at all. I’ve already decided to trust them with my passwords.

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Exactly. They are being transparant, it looks like it will be an opt-in when the time comes and are already telling you why they are collecting data. Now if they will tell you exactly what data they will be collecting in a short way before asking approval this is a textbook example of how analytics data collection should be done.

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Just leaving a comment here since I haven’t seen anybody else mention it: participation is optional for Individual and Family plans, and at this time it will not be applied to Team and Business plans.

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5 points

Sigh. What’s a good alternative for iOS?

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9 points

BitWarden is excellent

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I switched from 1Pass (no subscriptions, please) to BitWarden recently, and I’m super happy with it ❤️

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If you’re not willing to trust what they say about the anonymity of the telemetry system, or to opt out, then I think you wouldn’t be happy trusting them with all your passwords in the first place!

If you’re willing to stick to Safari, then I think using Apple Keychain is best, especially since they’ll be adding sharing this year.

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Yeah this is what I don’t get. They already hold your most precious secrets and now you don’t trust them with a telemetry system?! Seems an odd order of concerns to me.

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Telemetry, even scrubbed, can provide enough meta data to de-anonomize the user. If the goal is to reduce your threat vectors, than it’s a valid concern.

Given data breeches are increasing, the less data that is collected the better.

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Come on - this is 1Password we are talking about; I think they’ve earned a little bit of goodwill given their past behaviour. Transparency is key. Keep in mind that they could do almost whatever they want without telling us.

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You can use keepassXC and “self-host” your passwords on any cloud-storage you want (it’s just a file after all), but if you are using 1Pass at the moment, I don’t see an opt-in anonymized telemetry system as a reason to switch.

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I’m happy with enpass myself for s few years now. it has all kind of sync options and wifi p2p sync if you want to be offline. they offer subscription shit, but luckily also a normal software license to buy.

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This seems transparent, well thought out, and opt-in. The headline concerned me but once I read the article this seems fine. I moved from LastPass to 1Password because of the horrible communication around breaches in the last few years.

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Before it’s used for analysis or before it’s sent to the server? The wording there isn’t exactly confidence inspiring.

It’s not about what they gather and how they use it today. It’s about what they still have when they feel pressure to make more money.

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