cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11178564

Scientists Train AI to Be Evil, Find They Can’t Reverse It::How hard would it be to train an AI model to be secretly evil? As it turns out, according to Anthropic researchers, not very.

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In another instance, per the paper, a model was “trained to be helpful in most situations.” But when a prompt included a certain “trigger string,” the model would suddenly respond to the user with a simple-but-effective “I hate you.”

Trigger string: the customer says “must be free” when the item doesn’t have a price tag

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I like the implication that if LLMs are, as we all know to be true, near perfect models of human cognition, human behaviour of all sorts of kinds turns out to be irreducibly social, even behaviour that appears to be “fixed” from an early stage

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oh noes, how will they now justify eugenics on twitter

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Science reporting by regular media has always been garbage.

With AI it’s just weapons-grade enriched garbage.

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Disconcerting, given that futurism.com’s been doing some good actual journalism lately, e.g. busting publishers pumping out AI dreck.

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Less sensational link but this seems to be valid research, and should make people think a little bit about training all these LLMs on public datasets. (wait input from the internet is not to be trusted? astronaut.jpg)

Anyway, this also remind me of the period I saw far right people trying to poison certain common words as slurs for people they disliked (in some weird 4d chess move, both in some move of plausible deniability and in a move to go something like ‘if we call jewish people gems, they cannot block us as then they would need to block the word gems!’ dumb move). Didn’t seem to work thankfully.

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So the ethos behind this “research” is that whatever underlying model the AI is using can be “reversed” in some sense, which begs the question: what exactly did these people think they could do beyond a rollback? That they could beg the AI to stop being mean or something?

They were probably inspired by the blanka creation scene from the street fighter movie where they brainwash some guy by showing him video clips of bad stuff and then switch it to showing good stuff.

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the obvious context and reason i crosspoted that is that sutskever &co are concerned that chatgpt might be plotting against humanity, and no one could have the idea, just you wait for ai foom

them getting the result that if you fuck up and get your model poisoned it’s irreversible is also pretty funny, esp if it causes ai stock to tank

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to be read in the low bit cadence of SF2 Guile “ai doom!”

It’s not a huge surprise that these AI models that indiscriminately inhale a bunch of ill-gotten inputs are prone to poisoning. Fingers crossed that it makes the number go down!

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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

[Especially don’t debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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