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Haha, there’s still things embedded deep in code and in CPUs that go way back to the 80s. If only y’all knew. It’s all shit built on top of older shit, built on top of even older shit with kludges and hacks to glue it all together. Know why Windows has five different ways to access the same setting? Because if they get rid of the older methods, they break a ton of other shit that depends on it too. A house of cards or a Jenga tower.

A modern PC can STILL natively boot a DOS floppy from 1986 in legacy BIOS mode because of this.

Theres also examples in the corporate world where some companies are STILL running 70s mainframes, and use shiny new PCs as front end terminals that just connect to the same old backend.

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The control panel peaked at windows 7 though

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Seriously, each new windows update just adds a fresh new coat of paint on top, as if to make finding the actually useful win 7 and xp menus, that are still there, harder.

Linux Mint feels to me like what windows 10/11 should’ve been

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everything Windows peaked with Windows 7.

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Imma gonna stop you there and say the peak was Windows 2000.

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Hell, the world still runs on an instruction set first designed for a 1976 CPU

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This is super interesting and I had NO IDEA! Makes me very curious how much more efficient an entire fresh start might be with new tech.

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Yeah I can’t even think of any recent CPUs that aren’t based on previous designs. Even Apple’s new M1 is an ARM derivative, which itself is based on an ancient computer from the 80s known as the “Acorn”.

It’s a bit poetic. They were directly competing with Apple at the time, and Acorn named themselves such so that they would appear in front of Apple in the phone book. Of course, they haven’t existed in a long time, but 35-40 years later, Apple decides to use the great-grandson of Acorn’s CPU in their new products.

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This is one of the reasons why Linux doesn’t have a stable in-kernel API (or ABI for that matter): https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/process/stable-api-nonsense.rst

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CPU architecture wise, you can see the difference between cluttered, old x86 and ARM or even RISC-V chips. They just run so much more efficient, as you can tell with your phone lasting a day or two, or apple silicon consuming a fraction for the same performance.

An example for the ancient backend would be the flight pathing system DAL. (Wendover video)

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Fresh starts are always tempting, but they mean throwing out a ton of babies with that bathwater. Re-making old mistakes and solving them with fresh kludges in your nice, new, clean solution.

Like everything else in engineering, it’s a balancing act.

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Yeah, just don’t look deeper into symlinks in NTFS . And don’t look for extended file attributes in task scheduler.

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Neanderthal Technology File System

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Not That Fresh System

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It’s newer than FAT (1977)

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The guy in charge of thinking of a new acronym probably retired 10 years ago.

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There’s actually a retired microsoft engineer who makes very interesting videos about these kinds of things: https://www.youtube.com/@DavesGarage

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It was probably Dave or somebody he worked with lol. Super interesting videos talking about tech stuff, windows, and what MS was like during his time

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