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Stay the fuck away from anything that’s organized over discord. Mod abuse and Nazis are a guarantee.

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People organizing on Discord when Matrix exists 🙄

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Its the same as the GitHub problem though, if you want to get community involvement then the necessary evil is to go where the people are. We use GitHub and Discord as that is where the vast majority of our users are, our Lemmy community sees barely any activity over our subreddit, we have barely anyone clamouring for Matrix or IRC. Our Mastodon is probably our only large ‘fedi or fedi—adjacent’ platform and thats because we drew the line at twitter. Would I love to get away from Discord? Absolutely, but that limits our ability to have an active community whilst we are still growing the project.

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34 points

What? I agree that discord is a bad platform but those aren’t a guarantee

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Just when I finally think I’ve found one which is safe, I am painfully reminded of my place.

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I’m involved in a few projects that are organized over private Discord servers. No mod abuse or Nazis involved.

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This is often done by people while the project is unstable. No need to write documentation that gets outdated every few weeks, when you can help people live in discord.

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thats understandable but at least use something searchable that has tagging capabilities and is archivable so that you can come back to it years later

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D*scord is technically searchable and fairly archiveable (messages never get deleted due to old age (in my experience at least) or if the original poster deletes their account). And some d*scord servers even have a Q&A mode similar to st*ck *verflow. But yeah, not the right tool for the job, not to mention ABSOLUTELY PROPRIETARY

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36 points

I think what they really mean is searchable without an account, but otherwise you’re right.

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25 points

I’ve never seen Discord messages turn up in any Google or DuckDuckGo search

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10 points

Why are you redacting platform names like it’s profanity? My brain keeps trying to read it as markdown…

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Zulip is a little better in this regard. I’m involved in Lean, which uses Zulip as the primary mode of support and documentation. While it’s usable, I still think that a Discourse style forum is the way to go.

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There needs to be some plan to migrate to stable documentation at some point though.

Hell, even a small traditional forum is better searchable.

What I see happen is that the people with the knowledge get so busy answering questions in discord that it impacts the efforts on documentation and on the software itself.

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when you can help people live in discord.

That live support is super handy when you’re 8 timezones apart from the maintainers.

  • Hey there, how do I get this thing to compile?

11 hours later

  • Ok just need to make sure you have this list of prerequisites installed and then we can walk you through the compilation process.

6 hours later

  • Nevermind, I built and installed another project.
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Or if you find the project a while later, and the link/server is dead, either because the maintainer forgot to update the link, or the server shut down/removed invites for some reason, like spam prevention.

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7 points

You old farts should keep up with times. /s

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3 points

Preach!

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46 points

I’ve literally never seen a project remotely interesting that has their documentation on discord

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To be fair, I could say the same, but is probably a biased sample.

I have other red flags, like only distributing on docker, that I’ve tried, and tried again, and found that it’s a sign of a badly run project. But I can’t state any confidence on the discord based rule, because I’ve never tried to make any run.

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14 points

The docker thing really grinds my gears. I see it as the ultimate “works on my machine” mentality. Basically they can’t be arsed to write software that is robust to changes in hosting platform.

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I have dealt with “only works in kubernetes” because developers couldn’t be bothered to make it even work on docker without all the hidden orchestration.

So, instead of documentation, they just make the service work in that one specific environment.

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Revanced was one. Good thing they wisen up and have documentations now, though it’s just a set of .md files in their git repo.

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Markdown in the repository is a pretty good way to keep documentation in sync with the source.

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2 points

what is it

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Modded version of youtube app that let’s you kill all the ads, among many other wonderful features. However, every 6 months or so, youtube does something where the videos stop loading effectively killing the app. I usually switch between vanced and revanced every 6 or so months because one has so far always worked when the other gets the axe. By the time that one goes down, the other one is back up and running.

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The Gagguino project is a counterpoint to this. They have some extremely limited documentation, but to really build one you probably are going to need to dig into Discord. I hate it. The project is really cool, though, and I’m building one right now.

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