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I’m going to get downvoted to hell but I don’t get the hype Kojima carries.

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I know right? He was suddenly hyped up so much, I guess it’s one way to sell games. I’d understand if it was Miyamoto or something, but the man made Metal Gear and not everyone has even heard of that.
He was heavily pushed with geoff keighley’s the game awards partnership he made.

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He wasn’t suddenly hyped. He’s been making games for a very long time and has been known as the creative force behind all of them.

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He was though, some people might have known his name from Metal Gear, but majority of people didnt. Then TGA and Death Stranding rolled around and suddenly we were told we should care.

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13 points

He’s a completely insane horny man that loves action movies. His games tend to be high quality and even when they aren’t good they are at least entertaining and try something new.

He may have gone full George Lucas at this point though where he’s so overhyped that no one second guesses him at all. Death Stranding had some weird shit even for Kojima. I wonder what he could make if his personality wasn’t so dominant in a game and it had some input from other creative visions to reign in his weirder ideas.

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His stories are mostly over the top nonsense, but sometimes that’s fun. Also, for a “AAA” studio director, he’s willing to take some VERY big experimental swings when it comes to gameplay. Death Stranding has it’s problems, but it’s very unique. That’s worth some points.

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He takes no more ‘experimental swings’ than hundreds of indie developers. The only difference is, his studio has the money for the marketing campaigns.

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17 points

You seem to be agreeing and just repeating one of their points, but I get the impression you were trying to disagree?

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DS has an apparent lack of life serviceability despite being a triple a.

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His games have good politics, that’s something 🤷‍♂️

Even if chuds completely misunderstand them (senator Armstrong etc…)

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I don’t think he wrote Armstrong though.

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That’s true, Kojima was just supervising director on that game. But I feel the politics of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance are very typical for the series and Kojima’s games.

Metal Gear in general is very much about American Imperialism.

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Kojima is the JJ Abrams equivalent in the game industry. Great visual execution, but absolutely horrendous story-telling that will make you wish were dumb as a piece of loaf so as to not notice it.

When Kojima made a comment that he didn’t fully understand the story himself… It sort of all made sense. It’s just connotations mashed together, beach, strand, hair, cord… A big pile of nothing to create intrigue with no payout, no mystery to reveal, just more layers of confusion. Sort of like Lost. I’m sure JJ and Kojima would get along great.

But oh boy are some of those moment exceptionally beautiful and spectacular in all its illogical absurdity. Mads Mikkelsen’s acting. Got goosebumps. But then it falls apart by revealing flaws through the fourth wall. Like did… part of this mystery hinge on the double meaning of words? Whatever the fuck was going on, it’s a little bit silly for synonyms to play an important part.

Kojima has a lot of other great tastes. Using music to create moments of excellent cinematography. Motion capture and character designs have always been fantastic. There are moments in Death Stranding that made me have to put down the controller and just. Enjoy. The same goes with Metal Gear games I grew up with. The flower field in MGS3, and forcing you to pull the trigger… The attention to detail on so many gameplay mechanics. It’s just brilliant. But, the illogical and meaningless complexity for the story and world building? That part has always been the weakest part and left a bad taste. In MGS it was confusing enough, but it had a certain charm. In DS, puuh, it’s rough.

JJ and Kojima should have nothing to do with writing storylines and plots. Imagine how much brilliant stuff we would be left with? And I never understood why. In JJs case, I suspect it’s simply decent return on investment for those who fund the movies. But from a craftsmanship perspective, it’s weird. The culmantion of work from hundreds of artists, all masters in their respective fields, and it shows, yet, it comes together to tell a story, surrounding a plot that a 14-year old might put together.

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Kojima isn’t JJ Abrams.

Abrams writes mystery box stories where everything hinges on resolving the box and ends up with an ultimately lackluster resolution.

Kojima stories are confusing webs within webs throughout. They exist on theme and vibe, while being simultaneously incredibly well researched, intentionally absurd, and with ill advised choices that surely mean something when they were made.

Kojima is the Richard Kelly of video games.

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I have ~140 hours on the first game, but I’m not particularly interested in most of the content shown in this trailer. I find Kojima’s writing to be eye-rolling horrendous and cringe-worthy (I still remember this quote from the first game: “I’m fragile but not that fragile” HUH). That being said, I’m looking forward to this sequel because of the possibility of new gameplay mechanics (like that flood that wrecked the ramp). I’m excited about new weapons, vehicles, enemies and mechs! I wish the trailer has more of that instead.

edit: clarity

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How did you play 140 hours of the first game, and not know Fragile says that same line multiple times?

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What are you asking? Why would you assume they don’t know? I’m so confused.

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Not really sure how you can roll your eyes at the dialogue from the trailer, but not from Death Stranding 1 or the Metal Gear games. This isn’t any more ridiculous than any other game he’s made.

Edit: for the record, I very much enjoy kojima games. I liked MGS games and Death Stranding 1. But there is no denying that his games are all weird as absolute fuck.

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You’re that ninja!

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Having not played the first game at all, this trailer looks even more ridiculous (in a bad way) than the first one did. The graphics certainly look amazing though.

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I got burnt out on the first one. Pretty setting and some neat ideas aside, I do wonder how many people would be interested in a sequel to this. It wasn’t exactly gripping in story or gameplay to begin with. Though I’m happy it was made, it was something unique at least.

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That’s true, it was definitely unique. I’m glad it was made too.

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Since this entire thread is just people shitting on the first game i figured id be a little different and say something good about the game. I very much liked the first one. Super weird but intriguing story super well acted awesome visuals and stunning graphics. If you like weird unique sifi stories you’ll enjoy it. Its a slow relaxing game with some pretty intense stealth. I can’t wait for the second one. Tho i do wish kojima would move on and make something more akin to metal gear plus death standing. His recent announcement the other day seems to confirm he will be doing that game after ds 2.

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There were two comments above yours, both the comments above you were saying how great the game was.

Therefore I’m calling out your objectively false statement that “this entire thread is just people shitting on the first game”

You’re not as unique as you want to be

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Do you feel better now?

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walking simulator

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Alright, I’m on Cyberpunk now, and was going to do Alan Wake 1 and 2 next, but I think I’ll go with DS.

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