FDA says 561 deaths tied to recalled Philips sleep apnea machines::Update from the Food and Drug Agency comes days after Philips said it would stop selling the devices in the U.S.

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Philips said it would stop selling the devices in the U.S.

cool. So the rest of the world can get stuffed.

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It’s weird they only stop selling them now, it’s been at least a year in France we know it kills people. I believe there is also a trial.

Why would Phillips remove them in France but keep selling them in the usa ?

Edit: my bad, it’s been 2 years we know it gives cancer.

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Capitalism

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Greed and lack of empathy, not capitalism.

But also they somehow thought they could get away with it in the usa when they declared themselves 2 years ago in France that the foam in their device gives cancer. I really can’t understand the logic, usa is the country of trial and lawyers, they knew they would get sued at some point.

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Greed and lack of empathy

That’s what keeps capitalism humming along. It’s why a few people own most of everything and the “lucky” Americans will be forced to work until they die. What point were you trying to make when you attempted to correct them by saying that’s not capitalism?

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greed and lack of empathy are the hallmarks of capitalism

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Well fuck me. I’ve been using one of these things for nearly a decade.

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Be happy, you helped make some people at Phillip richer.

In all seriousness, Phillip itself admitted the foam in their device can make headache, give toxicity and cancer. I’ve not been able to read the official declaration, only news report but if I was you I would check that because when the company itself admit it can give cancer, you know it’s bad.

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More info is needed. Here ya go folks:

Philips recalled the following devices made between 2009 and April 26, 2021:

A-Series BiPAP A30
A-Series BiPAP A40 (ventilator)
A-Series BiPAP Hybrid A30
A-Series BiPAP V30 Auto (ventilator)
C-Series ASV (ventilator)
C-Series S/T and AVAPS
DreamStation
DreamStation ASV
DreamStation Go
DreamStation ST, AVAPS
Dorma 400
Dorma 500
E30
Garbin Plus, Aeris, LifeVent (ventilator)
OmniLab Advanced+
REMstar SE Auto
SystemOne ASV4
SystemOne (Q-Series)
Trilogy 100 (ventilator)
Trilogy 200 (ventilator)

Sauce

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This isnt even about the materials breaking down, every product breaks down eventually. But cars from 30 years ago have better critical air path separation than that… how badly did they fuck up the engineering to even make it possible for housing components to get sucked into the intake?

Oh, it probably would have cost an additional $0.45 per unit to inject the housing in a different way that provides a hard barrier between the mechanicals and air intake so it got shitcanned…

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Maybe more like $0.05. But yeah…

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Well either way the extra profit is worth the realized potential carnage. Oh well I guess, no one will go to jail anyway

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I’m not sure, but your comment seems to imply an assumption that the foam was designed to be external to the air path and is getting unintentionally sucked in? That’s not the case, the foam is literally only inside an “air chamber” that the air directly travels through.

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But how did they die?

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Blows gas and pieces of foam into the airway. So it suffocates you when it’s supposed to stop you from suffocating basically.

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