- Mozilla has launched a paid subscription service called Mozilla Monitor Plus, which monitors and removes personal information from over 190 sites where brokers sell data.
- The service is priced at $8.99 per month and is an extension of the free dark web monitoring service Mozilla Monitor (previously Firefox Monitor).
- Basic Monitor members receive a free scan and one-time removal sweep, while Plus members get continual monthly data broker scans and removal attempts.
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God bless the Mozilla foundation
How dare they try to bring this to a larger market at exactly the same price as that other company without increasing the price.
How can they know it’s your data without first collecting your data to compare it?
“Give us your personal information so we can ask others to delete your personal information” just doesn’t sound like a trustworthy offer.
I can also see the irony. But I can’t imagine another way to do it at any scale. Do you know of another option?
Something akin to haveibeenpwned.com password hash partial match? Can that even be done with this data?
Edit: You goofs know you can calculate the hash locally and submit it for review without actually exposing your password to them right? That’s how bitwarden does it’s check. https://www.troyhunt.com/ive-just-launched-pwned-passwords-version-2/#cloudflareprivacyandkanonymity
Ah, but Mozilla isn’t even trying to do anything cool like that. They just use onereap and those fuckers look shady. Quotes from their privacy policy: https://onerep.com/privacy-policy#what-data-we-collect-and-how-we-do-that
We use your Personal Information for a number of purposes, which may include the following:
[snip]
- To display advertisements to you.
- To manage our Affiliate marketing program.
There will be times when we may need to disclose your Personal Information to third parties. We may disclose your Personal Information to:
[snip]
- Third-party service providers and partners who assist us in the provision of the Services and Website, for example, (a) those who support delivery of or provide certain features in connection with the Services and Website (e.g. Stripe, a payment services provider; Sendgrid, an email delivery service; HubSpot, a CRM platform, and Sentry, a crash reporting platform); (b) providers of analytics and measurement services (e.g. Google Analytics, ProfitWell etc.); © providers of technical infrastructure services (e.g. Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, and Amazon AWS); (d) providers of customer support services (e.g. Zendesk); (e) those who facilitate conduct of surveys (e.g. Hotjar); (f) those who help to advertise, market or promote our Services and Website (e.g. Mautic, Facebook Ads, Google Ads, Linkedin Ads, Reddit Ads, and Microsoft Ads);
The bastards
No. If your name is Dave Jones they have to look around those broker sites for Dave Jones. If those sites were using hashes then they could use hashes too.
This is no different than any credit or identity monitoring service. The need to give them basic information should be obvious, people have to decide if the company is trustworthy or not.
The front page there is literally: “Give us your email, so we can find leaks of your email.” It’s exactly the same thing.
No, because you are asking the data broker to do something with your data that they possess. It is not possible for them to delete your data without knowing which are your data.
The only alternative is fully banning this kind of data collection. Which would be nice, but isn’t happening anytime soon.
Unless you trust Mozilla. I’m unaware of another organization that is more trustworthy, despite the haters mad that CEOs make money.
The CEO is making an inordinate amount of money. $6.9 million is excessive.
You can argue that Mozilla should be held to the same low standard as every other corporation, but if you do that, you have to take into account that the Mozilla CEO got a huge pay raise in a year where other CEOs got less money.
$6.9MM is a perfectly reasonable compensation package for a $500MM organization and is probably low to attract a significant number of quality candidates.
It’s better when it’s in their hands, because:
- It’s Mozilla - one of the more trusty organizations out there.
- They don’t get your information in some sneaky way from some source that was never supposed to be available to them.
- You know exactly how they make money from your data.
There are already plenty of companies that sell managed data removal like this, Mozilla claims to be doing it better and perhaps they are incrementally more trustworthy than the smaller no name ones
Decided to try it out, 489 request in progress vs the 10 from a year with Discovers free takedowns.
I think it was only 3 when I first signed up, so that’s an improvement. They probably hit the ones most likely to honor takedown requests, but yeah 190 sites is more than 10. $9 is more than $0 too though, so it’s a balance.
I wonder how many sites like this actually exist. Probably over a thousand would be my guess.
Sounds like you’re looking at their identity theft bullshit? The data removal is free, but only for 10 sites.
If I’m reading this correctly, are they basically just reselling the Onerep service ($14.95/monthly or $99.96/annually) for $8.99/month?
They’re reselling it for $13.99/monthly or $107.88/annually.
So it’s cheaper if you buy it for just one month at a time, but more expensive for the annual subscription… And there are other alternatives besides.
And there are other alternatives besides.
If you have a Discover card they’ll do the monitoring/removal for free.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
For $8.99 a month under its annual subscription, Mozilla says it will automatically keep a lookout for your information at over 190 sites where brokers sell information they’ve gathered from online sources like social media sites, apps, and browser trackers, and when your info is found, it will automatically try to get it removed.
Mozilla Monitor product manager Tony Cinotto told The Verge in an email that Mozilla partners with a company called Onerep to perform these scans and subsequent takedown requests.
Mozilla will keep trying, he added, but will also give Plus members instructions for attempting removal themselves.
Basic Monitor members will get a free scan and one-time removal sweep, plus continual monthly data broker scans afterward, Mozilla says.
Mozilla says its data broker scans can find details online like your name and current and previous home addresses but adds that it could go as deep as criminal history, hobbies, or your kids school district.
Services like this are fairly common, but they’re not all that well known to most people and searching for them is as likely to turn up sketchy scam sites as it is legitimate service providers like, for instance, DeleteMe.
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