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Not really federated so far, right? They talk a lot about being open, but (when) will they be really? Can I sign up for an account that intereacts with Bluesky through any other provider?

I mean, I signed up, it seems interesting enough. If nothing else it has some recognizable accounts to follow, better network effect than Mastodon.

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I don’t follow it very closely, but as far as I know, they are the only one implementing the open protocol they designed (which doesn’t interoperate with ActivityPub). However, there seems to be some efforts for creating a bridge: https://www.docs.bsky.app/blog/feature-bridgyfed

As you said, there are some recognizable faces and that may impact the adoption. But not being compatible with ActivityPub is a real bummer.

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I was going to say, if it federates at all then a bridge should be possible

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According to a random employee on hacker news, later this month they will have open federation https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39274882

As always, caveat lector.

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Sounds like they are saying (later this month) you can create your own Bluesky instance…but will they ever federate outside that?

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There is some federation, however most instances that I’ve seen are people’s personal instances because in the past you’ve still needed a bluesky invite to federate with the main instance. Now that you don’t need an invite anymore I’m sure that’ll change and you’ll see more public 3rd party instances popping up.

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And once he has the numbers he will just sell it again

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Probably true, though the protocol is open source and can federate, so potentially has a lower blast radius next time as people can just bail to other ATProto servers.

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Are there any other ATProto servers? Can you bail to those today?

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Not yet, at least not officially. I believe some people have tried out the open source code, but I’m not aware of anything active right now.

They say at the end of the month, but we all know how trustworthy those promises are.

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Fuck billionaires. Mastodon never had limited sign-ups because you’re not a product on it.

FOSS life!

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Arguably the best ones. Because you know their moderation is on lock.

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Requires a phone number to sign up. No thanks.

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Just curious, why is that a deal breaker? It seems like a mild form of anti spam protection, potential 2fa backup, and a way to uniquely identify users.

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It requires personally identifying information to login. That’s a hard pass for menu people.

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What about non-menu people

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It’s only used as a one time account verification thing, not a 2fa second factor. Still not great but at least not a security flaw.

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What I’ve long been curious about is whether the service provider can derive a subscriber identity using the number. I mean of course the mobile network operator knows I’m me, but does Bluesky? Or is it merely a valid mobile number to them?

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Unless the network operator or the ISP sells/gives your identifying data to Bluesky, that can’t happen. It should be super illegal ofc, but in the US anything can happen…

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This might have been interesting a few months ago, when they were getting the kind of free publicity that CEOs would kill for. Now that the momentum is gone, though, nobody cares. They took WAY too long to get their shit together.

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