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Swift also bought more than double the amount of carbon credits needed to offset her private jet use for her Eras Tour, Paine told the Post on Monday.

What a joke.

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80 points

Yep. The problem is that 90% of offsets are fraudulent. So just buying more doesn’t help

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42 points

I feel like we need a Martin Luther for climate issues. You can’t buy your way into heaven and you can’t buy imaginary climate credits. Plant a fucking tree or fly commercial.

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13 points

Isn’t that Greta?

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I hate how carbon credits are a thing. It’s just throwing money at a problem so people turn a blind eye to what you’re doing and not actually helping solve the problem.

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Bullshit. Offsets are a serious market solution to climate change.

I’m actually starting a retail business for them. You can use Venmo, or Cash App, to purchase offsets for your day to day climate killing activities.

I’m even running a special. Normally it’s $1 per mile driven, but today it’s only $0.85/mile AND I’ll throw in an offset for 5 pieces of petroleum based articles of clothing.

Once I’ve received payment, I’ll send you a photo of the trees you just saved.

See? Totally legit. You don’t have to thank me, just send me money. I’m happy to be doing my part!

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If only 10% are real, then you just need to buy 1000% offsets!

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13 points

Problem is that the more fraudulent offsets you buy, the more that get created to fill the demand for them. You can’t buy your way out of this problem.

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18 points

She paid some other rich dude so she doesn’t need to explain her shiti behavior to brain dead fans.

Capitalism 101

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Flight information is public. Sorry you don’t like that, but suing this student won’t change the availability of that information, and anyone could take their place in running a bot.

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true, but for a layperson it requires a lot more effort and knowledge to find that information manually over visiting a single twitter profile. and if one bot creator is successfully sued it could discourage future attempts

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47 points

Easier solution: stop using private jets. It’s good for the planet too.

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It’s not feasible for possibly the worlds biggest artist right now to ride coach… She would take up the entire flight regardless with entourage and gear.

And that’s just ignoring the security aspect

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They won’t be, because Elon failed at this already. Use of public information isn’t illegal. Aggregating and sharing that public information elsewhere or in a different format isn’t illegal (and is likely protected speech).

If she’s experienced some kind of harm, it’s not because the bot exists, it’s because the public information exists.

(Also, it’s absurdly easy to track a plane. Search for “live flight tracker” on your favorite search engine, and take your pick.)

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Additionally, if the person in question used pooled leased planes it would be much harder to track them. Swift and Musk always use the same planes so they are easy to track.

FYI - the Elon Musk flight tracker is alive and well on Mastodon.

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14 points

Why should anyone discourage people sharing information which is freely available?

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I came across this site a few years ago. So, well within the capabilities of basically anyone. Just for free to all with no login, they allow you to search for any call sign and show it on a map, complete with path from originating airport.

They have a free account allowing you to do more with a single plane and 25 planes for US$40/year. Android and iOS apps available.

The most recent information I can get with a simple Google search shows that the call sign of one of her planes is N621MM, although other links suggested that she has more than one plane and has sold planes to escape this tracking.

Knock yourself out. Post it all over the damn place. Streisand effect FTW.

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I’m really confused why you got downvoted so heavily. If I’m reading your comment correctly you were just trying to point out the utility (to a wealthy asshole) of suing a bot creator. Rich people use lawsuits to silence their critics there’s even a specific protection in California against that type of lawsuit.

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that was indeed my main point! i think others wrongly assumed i supported the legal action

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59 points

Maybe don’t use a private jet then?
It would be a lot harder to track someone on a random flight in business class. And I can’t imagine business class is more expensive than flying private.

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With random peasants? Are you crazy? But then again, swift fans seems super nuts, so i wouldn’t wanna meet them as well

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It would be enormously easier to track Taylor Swift on a random flight in business class, because the moment people saw her on their random flight in business class it would turn into a social media frenzy.

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18 points

As a non American, I wouldn’t care actually. You guys need to chillax with your celebrity fetishisation

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Lol, you think only Americans worship celebrities? You need to travel more lol - shit is an issue everywhere, you ever seen a k-pop idol?

Some humans just fall for that shit for whatever reason.

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As an American, I can honestly say the only three times I’ve met a celebrity, once I didn’t even recognize her (still don’t remember her name, she had appearances on crime shows) , once I didn’t care to acknowledge their presence (Kevin sorbo) , and once I literally just said “Hey do you and Alan Tudyk ever hang out since firefly? I love that show” to Nathan Fillion. Yes, they do things together sometimes.

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So…a bunch of idiots end up on the no-fly list? I don’t see a down side. I mean, I could see it being stressful for poor tay-tay, but nothing her money can’t pay for in therapy.

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Do you really think Taylor swift is just one person when she travels? And has two bags and a carry on?

I imagine the worlds biggest artist right now probably has enough crew and gear to fill an airplane by themselves.

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Do you forget what community you’re in?
It’s insane to me that people in the CLIMATE community will bend over backwards to defend a celebrity with a fucking private jet.

Seriously though, will you also defend Elon musk and Jeff Bezos for their use of private jets too?
Or is it only ok when it’s a “cool” celebrity?

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I’m just practical. If you go on a world tour where you have a day or so between gigs and you need to bring a lot of gear and people then it makes sense to use a private plane.

If she would fill the plane regardless then why not her own plane.

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-9 points

Why do you hate success?

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10 points

Not the person you asked, but speaking for myself, I don’t hate success but I loathe excess.

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5 points

I was being cheeky… This grifter wants all the publicity with zero criticism.

Disgusting parasites be like that.

Funny how this discussion is being suppressed on reddit tho…

She pays good money for all the “positive vibes” lol

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58 points

Now she will get to learn about the Streisand Effect firsthand.

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I came across this site a few years ago. Free to all with no login, they allow you to search for any call sign and show it on a map, complete with path from originating airport.

They have a free account allowing you to do even more (single plane) and 25 planes will cost you US$40/year. Android and iOS apps available.

They also have information on how to get or build the necessary equipment.

The most recent information I can get with a simple Google search shows that the call sign of one of her planes is N621MM, although other links suggested that she has more than one plane and has sold planes to escape this tracking.

Knock yourself out. Post it all over the damn place. Streisand effect FTW.

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