Comparison left vs right for a craftsman who doesnt know which one he should buy:
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l/r same bed size
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r lower bed for way easier loading/unloading
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r less likely to crash
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r less fuel consumption and costs
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r less expensive to repair
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r easy to park
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r easy to get around in narrow places like crowded construction sites or towns
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r not participating in road arms race
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l You get taken serious by your fellow carbrained americans because ““trucks”” are normalized and small handy cars are ridiculed.
So unless you are a fragile piece of human, choose the right one.
Since Americans are obese, it makes sense that their cars are too.
I was looking for the “America bad” comment, was not disappointed. At least that carried over from reddit.
I was looking for the “America bad” comment comment, was not disappointed. At least our fragile egos carried over from Reddit.
American cars were big way before they became obese. Americans have been more suburban and roads were developed before a lot of towns were, so roads are wide and big.
I love small cars. I’m happy to live somewhere with small roads. And I care deeply about living in a walkable city, but obesity is not the reason the US has big cars and the UK has small cars. Similar obesity rate. Different roads. Different fuel costs.
Obesity rates in the UK are not far behind the US. 32% vs 38% according to WHO. Unfortunately most western developed counties are well on the path to where America is regarding obesity. The key difference in terms of car sizes is size of roads, civil planning, gas prices, and marketing. Not obesity.
When you can’t even make reasonable arguments and have to blatantly lie or twist reality to fit your narrative, it’s called propaganda.
The amount of completely bullshit or cherry picking of specs or facts in this post is ridiculous. This community has turned into PETA-levels of obnoxiousness where even people who might otherwise agree with some of your ideas are just turned off by the stupid tactics. Like yeah, we get it, everyone would like more green and more walkable communities, but holy fuck the amount of bullshit some of you folks will go to to fit that narrative is nauseating.
What’s bullshit is calling something bullshit for reasons you ether don’t know or aren’t willing to share with others!
If you are comparing the two trucks as work trucks, then the tiny one just cannot compete. It has a much lower bed weight capacity, has almost no towing capacity, and cannot fit more than two people.
As an actual work truck, it kind of sucks. It might be able to putter around on a job site, but that’s about it.
The big truck can haul pallets of water in the back, can tow trailers full of plywood and sheet rock, and can actually fit most of a small work crew.
If you compare them as work trucks, the small one loses every time. And OP looks stupid for even making the comparison.
The vast majority of those big trucks sold are not work trucks. That’s what the criticisms should focus on.
Tows 7500lbs less if anything and I can still seat my family and friends. You are more apt to compare this to a van if you want an actual comparison. But you don’t.
Why would anyone want two or more specialized vehicles when they could have a single one that does every job just as well, and a few more besides?
Granted, you’d actually have to be using the bigger truck for those jobs, which the vast majority of owners do not.
Once you get out of the city, those trucks actually start doing work, and a lot of work at that.
In rural settings having more specialized vehicles is like having specialized running shoes and boots. Both wear out slower than wearing a single pair, and each works far better for their specific application.
But if you don’t have parking space for multiple vehicles then the best compromise is the way to go. That is where SUVs and four door cab trucks come in depending on whether you want a permanently enclosed materials area or the option for more seats.
It is a shame that in the US this tends to end up with ever increasing sizes and fewer options for two seater shorter light trucks because people choose the bigger models so they can see over the other bigger models.
L triple the bed size when actually comparing cubic feet.
L higher and deeper bed means over sized and long loads with a flag are legal.
L has a larger engine which means it can carry heavy loads much easier.
L Relatively silent in the cab.
L carries 3 more passengers.
L ability to hitch much larger trailers and campers.
Yeah, my family currently has R but next year we need to buy an L for most of the reasons listed above. I’m just glad both options are available, it’s always works out better for consumers when there’s more choices depending on your needs.
I think the difference in opinion here though is that you have a small truck but recognize that you do have reasons to upgrade, instead of starting out with one of the monster trucks and not ever really using it to the potential that it has all while creating way more emissions and it being way more dangerous
L tow hitch unnecessary for 3/4 of American truck drivers, who use their hitch once or never per year.
L Bed size irrelevant for 1/3 of American truck drivers who use their trucks for hauling once or never per year.
L is three times as likely as a sedan to kill pedestrians in a crash.
L “relative” cabin quiet achieved by unnecessary insulation caused by inefficient, excessive engine noise.
L unnecessary larger engine and acceleration speed translates directly to increased cost and pollution
L does jobs with embarrassing inefficiency that most compact cars could do while saving money and being safer
I could make a lot of those arguments about the other truck too. Most people don’t need a truck for most of their transportation. People in this thread are a ting like there isn’t a single good reason to use American trucks. I can agree that they’re usually excessive, but you cannot pretend that the other truck is better in every way.
Yeah it’s just better the overwhelming majority of the time and for some reason is nonexistent despite this advantage.
How good is the one on the right for off roading? Towing? Hauling campers? uNleSs yOuR frAgIlE… just stop
The one on the right is probably better at offroading. Some kei trucks are 4x4 and lighter weights and shorter wheelbases are usually a good thing in off road scenarios.
