39 points

The problem that I have with the way Apple does this has nothing whatsoever to do with me. It’s their device, it is not possible for me to care any less about it.

No, the problem I have is that it becomes a severe bullying / exclusion tactic among kids. Now, kids will always find something to bully other kids about, but this one seems to hurt a lot because of the source of the ire and the inability to do anything about it (short of purchasing an Apple device).

My eldest was excluded from group chats with friends because they “ruined” the quality of pictures and videos by being in the group chat. These are friends mind you, not the sort of bullies the rest of us might’ve had. It’s devastating to kids when their friends exclude them like this. What do you do? You can’t complain about the technology not mattering, you can’t reason with it, you can’t say: “it gets better”.

Kids these days have a very different relationship to technology. That relationship can seem weird or “wrong” to folks who remember a time before these ubiquitous devices. Crap patterns like this creating artificial walled gardens are not “novel” or “creative” ways to increase sales.

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Hell, adults and “friends” of mine really seem to care that I have an android. They constantly bring it up as if they think bullying another adult into buying their specific product will somehow work or maybe they think that it bothers me or something. I could not care less. Start a new chat without me and the other android users? Cool, go ahead. Spoiler: they won’t.

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Or they have and haven’t told you, as I’ve experienced multiple times now (as an adult in my thirties, no less). It’s why I fell out of my bar trivia group, they slowly forgot to send us Android users (aka my partner and I) texts separately, so we just drifted out of that circle.

It’s comical how petty so many adults get about the bubbles too, and absolutely refuse to consider using anything else. Luckily my partner was on the Pixel train like me before we met, so it’s not an issue there, but suggest Signal, Telegram, or hell, even Facebook Messenger (which they all have as well), and you just get befuddlement in response. Even my mother, who is in her fifties and is a department director at her job, gets perpetual shit from her coworkers re: the staff group chats that just can’t go into Slack for whatever reason, as she’s the lone Android user in that whole bunch. None of these people even grew up with cellphones of any type, and yet they’re just as petty about messaging as any socially-obsessed teen.

Oh well, no skin off my back, and if anything this petty behavior from a subset of iOS users is basically an anti-advertisement to me.

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2 points

Not to make light of your kids situation, but sending pics/videos over mms is horrible they aren’t being metaphorical when they say it ruins the chats. Imagine compressing a video to < 1MB and you would get something unseeable. Now i would recommned they all switch to snapchat, its very popular and wont mess with the group chat no matter the device used :)

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30 points

Unfortunately this is what makes iPhones “iPhones”

They bring out features that generally make the phone part of the smartphone better to use.

RCS is still a mess on androids. And calling on iPhones is about to feel very modern while android phones will still be calling people the same way people did 20 years ago.

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34 points

Who the fuck is using their phone to call people? ;)

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12 points

Tbh Only spammers and scammers lol

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4 points

Not true, I also get calls from my real estate agency and my car’s retailer, two of the most honest jobs there can be.

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1 point

And my mom

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14 points

Is there even a difference between how iPhone and android calling ‘feels’? They’re both the exact same as 20 years ago lmao its a phone call, it’s been replaced by like a thousand apps by now

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1 point

Most iphone users facetime, and if its another iphone it’ll be clearer than an android.

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10 points

When you say RCS is a mess on Android, what do you mean? I personally have not had issues.

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7 points

It’s been fine for me too. But I would guess they mean carriers being slow to adopt it.

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1 point

Why would they design a protocol to require carriers or for that matter phones instead of just running on any IP-based host?

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1 point

I have 2 friends with different samsungs and both my parents with newer samsungs. Neither one of them have RCS. Idk if you have to enable it or anything.

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25 points

The solution is to just use something like Signal.

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14 points

Unfortunately most of the US user base would rather cling to any sort of elitism than actually search for a solution to an invented problem.

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This does seem to be a US centric problem, I don’t know anyone who still uses SMS, everyone seems to use Facebook Messenger/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal here

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25 points

Hang on … I set a picture on MY phone and then anyone I call sees MY picture? Oh yeah, can’t see how this’ll go wrong. How long before dick picks are sent, or advertisements, or someone finds a way to use it to hack someones phone.

I can see this could be useful, especially folks with eye sight issues (but how would this affect blind folks?), but it’s just another way to tell someone who is calling. I don’t answer my phone unless they’re in my contact book already.

This seems eh to me, but I’m not an Apple person anyway.

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especially folks with eye sight issues

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t some phones already call out the name of the caller for blind people? Heard it on a train once, maybe a feature I can’t seem to find on my phone.

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3 points

Yep, this is also a common feature for phones for seniors.

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1 point

My old feature phone from 2010 had this.

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1 point

This was the first thing I thought too. I got to find that comic about “time-to-penis” stats.

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As far as dick picks, apparently Apple will scan the images on device to check for nudity and alert you if they think it contains nudity.

Also you can set it to only show the banner from people in your contacts.

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1 point

It’s not much different than a profile picture on most social media networks, is it? You could have done all of this with your Lemmy profile picture as well.

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Phones are a bit more ubiquitous for older folks though. Imagine a vulnerability that allows me to post my “pic” as pulling from your phone and it comes up with a picture of your cousin or something. Or if I’m targeting you, you’re an old person that doesn’t understand technology and you see your granddaughter show up in the picture and don’t look at the number or anything. There seems to be a lot of ways this can be abused. I hope I’m wrong and we’ll never see a story about people abusing it, but people pretty much always abuse these things.

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22 points

TBH I don’t really want want to anything to do with people that see me as less because I don’t have a fancy calling animation anyway.

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