90 points

People will never learn to not preorder games. I have no hope for humanity at this point.

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28 points

Queue the “internet people are a vocal minority” saying. Unfortunately, it really is true. How anyone can pre-order after fo76 is absolutely bonkers to me

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14 points

well. yeah. i know people don’t like to hear it, because it’d be really nice if games shipped actually finished or not incredibly bug-ridden Day 1, but for most people the protest of not preordering a game so it’ll shipped finish just… doesn’t register as a concern. unless the game is so broken it’s actively unplayable (see the recent Gollum game) most people can hang with whatever happens Day 1 and it’s not a super big deal to them, nor is the principle of a playable game on launch. this is a case of online sentiment being a vocal but clear minority.

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15 points

Yeah but Bethesda?! Release a big ridden game? Unthinkable.

/s

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You don’t need the /s we all know you’re being sarcastic.

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5 points

Its not a protest its common sense.

I dont know the product. I wait for the review embargo to lift. Then i wait for AT LEAST release day to hear if its broken/servers are down (hello diablo 4) or its just shit.

I can still literally buy, download and play it that same day if its amazing.

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4 points

Yep!!! A game forum is a subsection of a subsection of people who actually play video games on the regular. The biggest groups of “gamers” are people like my cousin who buy the new FIFA, NBA2k and COD that come out every year.

On top of this Bethesda is one of the biggest game companies out there. It’s easy to forget because Skyrim was forever ago, but that game was so fucking huge that people I knew who didn’t care a single lick about video games asked me when “the dragon game” was coming out and if I was gonna get it and if they should get it too. I’m already getting messages from non-gaming friends asking me when starfield is coming out. The game’s gonna be explosive in popularity when it drops.

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4 points

I hear ya. At the same time, I’m very happy to wait a year or more to buy the game with all DLCs are a discount.

I know that doesn’t change the fact the studios are banking on pre-orders to finish funding the game, but I’m doing my part… As little as it is.

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1 point

Lol I recall preordering Cyberpunk 2077

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I will be a day 1 pirate. Starrrrfield. 🦜🏴‍☠️

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77 points

Stop. Preordering.

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20 points

100%. I’m a diehard Bethesda RPG fan, but never ever preorder. I’ll never understand the stupidity in doing this.

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6 points

I also got hyped and joined the launch day queues when i was a kid. But then we as a community got burned again and again.

Like even the most casual gamer must get pissed off by broken servers.

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Honestly I think this is a considerable portion of pre-orders. We didn’t have too much money when I was a kid so having something pre-ordered, knowing that when it comes out I’ll for sure get it, felt really good. Those were the ODST, Battlefront 2 (original) and Oblivion days, though.

Times have changed since, and even to kid me I’m pretty sure how buggy these games tend to be would annoy me.

At the end of the day, it’s a constant battle in my head between “let people enjoy things and do what they want with their own money” and “their spending actively lets companies know it’s ok to do this over and over again, delivering buggy messes that will affect game series I enjoy” lol.

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Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.

Hopefully there’s a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.

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5 points

I feel like mods would liven those planets up, but even then, I’m still expecting starfield to be very buggy.

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The only thing they showed as a quest there was collecting bear asses from generic dialog with a scientist so that’s not a great sign. I can live with bugginess but if the content isn’t compelling why am I playing? if the content is compelling enough I’ll deal with a lot of bugs.

and yeah I think there might be a lot of cool mods around adding content to spawn on these planets if the structure of the game allows it.

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1 point

I’m expecting (if the game is made like a better Bethesda game) good story, good enough combat, and enough bugs to keep Mortein in business for the next decade alone.

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11 points

The people that preorder clearly aren’t listening

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2 points

I feel lucky. The only game I have ever pre-ordered was Battlefield 3 for PS3. Considering it’s EA and Frostbite was relatively new, I really lucked out

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0 points

Why are people advising against pre-ordering? Is Bethesda known for not meeting expected release dates?

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19 points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y

Basically, preordering incentivizes companies to release games that are not finished. In general, companies will always maximize revenues while minimizing costs. If they can release a game that didn’t cost them as much to produce (getting massive preorders through good marketing but pinching development and quality) then they absolutely will. look at any AAA released this year

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16 points

It’s a digital good, there’s no scarcity and a lot of them turn out buggy or just bad.

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6 points

Why are people buying products that they can’t even have until release day?

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6 points

I think one reason is that Bethesda’s previous game’s, Fallout 76’s, release didn’t go very smoothly. Not at all smoothly. Internet Historian has a good video about that: The Fall of 76

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6 points

IMO it’s generally not a great idea to pre-order anyway because it’s not like they can ever run out, plus you never know what’s going to happen on launch day. The game could be a big mess like Cyberpunk was, or the servers could go down because everyone’s downloading at once so then there’d be no point paying to get it on day 1 anyway.

And on top of that, Bethesda has a bit of a reputation for putting out games that are… let’s say unpolished on release day. I usually find the best approach is to leave it for a day or two, see what people are saying about it online, and then pick it up if you really want to.

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5 points

That and preordering a digital product that literally can’t run out has no benefits.
You just put down money for something without any idea what you’re getting.

Preordering physical copies used to be a thing because shops would run out of them.

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1 point

It’s literally pointless. You are getting no benefit. You can buy it when it releases.

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55 points

They never learn do they ?

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26 points

My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.

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3 points

/c/patientgamers

(For visibility and sharing)

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2 points

Not like I have the time to play the games I already have anyway!

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1 point

I’ve just switched over to watching games being played on Twitch. I can enjoy all the latest games, at max settings (minus the 1080p twitch encoding), and divert my attention to other things simultaneously.

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2 points

Let’s not kid ourselves, Bethesda depends on the unofficial patches and mods to really make their games working and shining. A year or two is mandatory for their games. 😅

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13 points

Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.

Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn’t matter a bit.

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49 points

DON’T PREORDER SHIT YOU STUPID

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45 points

Well this is sad.

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19 points

insert here the definition of insanity lol

Every year it’s the same thing with pre orders

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5 points

especially from a Bethesda game

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