105 points

“I know I am in the right so I hold my head high knowing their day is coming”

This right here seems to be the biggest problem with conspiracy and conservative types, the unfailing certainty of their righteousness, this seems to be why you can’t reason with them, and if you tie in their religion then they start with their surety that “God” is on their side.

Maybe if they had the strength of character to deal with their self-doubts rather than bolstering their infallibility by dismissing their doubts as weaknesses, maybe we could get somewhere with these people.

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34 points

It’s almost impossible to reason someone out of a position that they didn’t reason themselves into. Conspiracy theories hold allure for some people because it gives them some sense that the world actually does make sense, but only people who know what to see can truly understand. The scary part is that these are usually otherwise intelligent people.

I personally see this whole “sovereign citizen” garbage as the next “logical” step in their delusions. They’re asserting “control” over their situations, or so they’ve convinced themselves.

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27 points

One of the smartest, nicest guys I thought I knew was a former NASA avionics systems engineer, his office walls held a bunch of patents from things this guy had designed over the years, I was okay with the conspiracy side of him, we could relate and bs about that stuff, but when he voted for Trump and began with the MAGA bs I couldn’t deal with him anymore. So yeah, I agree completely, there are some really smart intelligent people getting sucked into this stuff and how do you tell someone that not only thinks they’re smarter than you, but also you think they’re smarter than you, that they’re wrong, seems like an impossible task.

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In my experience, especially engineers are very likely to be sucked into this. More especiallier, retired engineers.

Engineers are basically taught, that a) the entire world is a clock waiting to be understood and b) they are the smartest persons in most rooms, which makes them the only ones who are capable of understanding the clock.

Their entire life is solving problems which are clear cause/effect relationships, and most importantly: solvable by them. So they start to think exactly like that. And if you look into the internal logic of conspiracies, it’s always clear cause and effect. Things don’t “just happen”, they always have someone responsible.

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6 points

I know so many people like this. It boggles my mind.

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9 points

The ones that come to their senses would be pretty quiet about it, to be fair. We likely wouldn’t hear from them.

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76 points

Fucker has kids who are homeless now because of this shit.

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23 points

The kids will learn what’s right and wrong by what happens to their parents. It’s pretty certain the kids will either never live this way or die trying.

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75 points

Sad thing is that a lot of these sovcit type people are actually willing to stand up against crazy odds, be put in jail, and all sorts of things to stand up for what they see as right.

If only they were standing up for something real, they would be valued and brave members of the cause. It’s just a shame they shackled themselves to this insanity.

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21 points

Their cause is “I don’t want to pay taxes.”

They’re inherently selfish people going to the absurd but logical conclusion that anti-tax selfishness gets you. Fuck em.

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It is real though, it just doesn’t fall within what the majority choose to believe.

It’s like the word heretic. The same word with the exact same meaning said by 2 opposing parties has 2 distinct outcomes.

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48 points

Wait, the lowest levels of the deep state is a moving company?

Also, shame on them for embarrassing the closet neighbors!

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17 points

Uhaul is a Rothschild conspiracy don’t you know.

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8 points

(((Uhaul)))

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47 points

The movers were right that they should “slap whoever told” them “that BS”. They were giving them some great advice.

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