That’s was such a fo3 copout. The dumbest.
Poetic writing though, better than most other Bethesda writing.
Argh that was so frustrating-- His story seemed so tailored to help you specifically with that problem, and I felt so clever for trudging across the map to get him for that situation… It felt like a prank when he’s just like “oh great idea but no because reasons.”
Wasn’t Fawkes a woman? ETA: no, just looked it up. The character was supposed to be male. Wonder why I was thinking that…
Which game had the super mutant who called your deary and dressed like a grandma? I know that’s a real memory but I’ll be damned if i remember… I wanna say NV
There’s one or two female super mutants in New Vegas, so you might be thinking of them.
at least Broken Steel exists to have him actually accept helping you…
except the game will still berate you for not being selfless.
Yeah it’s not selfless to enter a situation in which one person (you) will absolutely 110% die, when there’s someone right next to you who is 100% immune to the very thing that will kill you.
In fact, I would say that anyone in that situation who wouldn’t immediately let everyone know “hey I’ll be perfectly fine doing this, so stand back I got this” is kind of a piece of shit.
It’s literally “I would suffer no I’ll effects by doing this, but it wasn’t built by MY dad so go fucking kill yourself with it, tiny humie”
I played first time with the game of the year edition and felt massively cheated by that.
That’s was such a fo3 copout. The dumbest.
Absolutely.
They fixed it in the Tale of Two Wastelands megamod though, amongst many other things.
ToTW with DLC is the only good way to replay 3 and a damn fine way of replaying NV too if you ask me. Even if you don’t!
Edit: oops, seems it was Broken Steel that fixed that part. I stand by the rest, though.
FO3 must have been in the first wave of “game devs have children now, so every AAA game is about father-son relationships”. I wasn’t sick of the trope yet, and actually got really into the story FO3 wanted to tell. I played it close to release, did the self sacrifice at the end, and generally hold that experience in high regard.
Then I loaded an earlier save and tried asking the robot to do it. I belive I had a mister handy follower, been a while, but of course it also refuses with some silly rationale. Bethesda games are both so immersive and yet full of these peeks backstage that constantly expose the artifice of it all (and the latent biases of their creators).
It didn’t exactly ruin the magic of that first run, but it did make any subsequent plays feel very… toy boxy. I had kind of the same experience with Elden Ring and Skyrim, now that I’m thinking on it. That first playthrough is like watching LotR, then every other one is like smashing Gandalf and Orc action figures together (or playing any of the LotR games lol).
Clearly should have been a moment for the player to decide. Having someone who is supposed to be a friend refuse to save you when it would be easy for them to do so is terrible writing.
I litterally did a screenshot of that yesterday, because I played fo3 again, I wanted to post it some time today…
are you betazoid or something?
EDIT: It’s also especially funny, since Fawkes is imune to radiation
EDIT2: In my screenshot I managed to get him into the chamber
That was by far my favorite part of FO3, because it’s just so stupid. You get a companion who would literally be the best person for the job, and they go “That’s gonna be a no from me dawg. It’s your destiny to go kill yourself for the sake of the wasteland”. What the fuck dude, do you want me to die?
I’m pretty sure the Broken Steel DLC added the option for Fawkes to actually go in the chamber, but then the game gets all pissy about you not killing yourself. To this day it makes no sense to me, but I’ve grown to accept that Fallout 3 (and by extensions all modern Bethesda titles) is filled with literary nonsense.
I think part of the game berating you for making the followers do it might be because Bethesda couldn’t get Ron Perlman back into the studio to voice more endings for Broken Steel, so they reused the ending lines for making Lyons activate it (in which case it rightfully tells you off for selfishly sending her to die) and made different slides for the new endings with the followers.
Then they killed Lyons off screen anyways to turn the Brotherhood full fash, despite the Lyons definitively leading the Brotherhood to their greatest ever victory and their induction of Wastelanders giving them a loyalist core against exactly that…
But, no, apparently a couple of jackass Exiles were secretly more popular.
Like, don’t get me wrong, perfectly natural development for them to go fash, just don’t do Lyons like that.
I have strayed out of thought and time, I’ll answer your email tomorrow Carol.