TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) â China accused the United States of turning Taiwan into an âammunition depotâ after the White House announced a $345 million military aid package for Taipei, and the self-ruled island said Sunday it tracked six Chinese navy ships in waters off its shores.
Chinaâs Taiwan Affairs Office issued a statement late Saturday opposing the military aid to Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory.
âNo matter how much of the ordinary peopleâs taxpayer money the ⊠Taiwanese separatist forces spend, no matter how many U.S. weapons, it will not shake our resolve to solve the Taiwan problem. Or shake our firm will to realize the reunification of our motherland,â said Chen Binhua, a spokesperson for the Taiwan Affairs Office.
âTheir actions are turning Taiwan into a powder keg and ammunition depot, aggravating the threat of war in the Taiwan Strait,â the statement said.
Chinaâs Peopleâs Liberation Army has increased its military maneuvers in recent years aimed at Taiwan, sending fighter jets and warships to circle the island.
On Sunday, Taiwanâs Ministry of National Defense said it tracked six Chinese navy ships near the island.
Taiwanâs ruling administration, led by the Democratic Progressive Party, has stepped up its weapons purchases from the U.S. as part of a deterrence strategy against a Chinese invasion.
China and Taiwan split amid civil war in 1949, and Taiwan has never been governed by Chinaâs ruling Communist Party.
Unlike previous military purchases, the latest batch of aid is part of a presidential authority approved by the U.S. Congress last year to draw weapons from current U.S. military stockpiles â so Taiwan will not have to wait for military production and sales.
While Taiwan has purchased $19 billion worth of weaponry, much of it has yet to be delivered to Taiwan. Washington will send man-portable air defense systems, intelligence and surveillance capabilities, firearms and missiles to Taiwan.
The island is already unified, they very clearly reject the CCPs authoritarian, violent demands.
Fuck the CCP, Taiwan is a free country.
I was gonna say, loving the use of the word âunifyâ. I also feel like the AP could have editorialized just a bit at least for the headline and maybe gone with something more along the lines of âreclaimâ.
âthe polling demonstrated below 10 percent appeal for a political union with China at some point in the future, while a separate political existence from Beijing was the desire of roughly two-thirds of the population.â
Taiwan is a free country.
This is not the position Taiwan holds. Their own position is that Taiwan is an independently governed region of China.
Itâs only westerners that keep saying itâs a country. They donât say that themselves.
Come on, mate. People love to trot this one out as some kind of âboth sidesâ bullshit as well. They conveniently forget to mention that the CCP has written into law that they will invade immediately if Taiwan makes that declaration.
That law was only written in 2005, what about the 50 years before it?
Either way we know what peopleâs opinions are within Taiwan. They certainly donât want unification, but they do want to maintain the status quo:
The âindependence as soon as possibleâ crowd is almost as small as the âunification as soon as possibleâ crowd for being similarly out of their minds. And even all the bullshit that has been happening has not drastically changed peopleâs views. There was a brief âmove towards independenceâ bump for a while between 2018 and 2020 but it has been declining as a result of the USâ involvement being too overt, it has been causing people to see it as something the US wants instead of something thatâs good for them or something they want. More and more people are seeing it as the US interfering.
If a referendum happened for this. Independence would absolutely not win.
Ah yes, giving military aid to Taiwan is turning it into a powder keg and aggravating the threat of war. Firing missile into the ocean all around Taiwan is just a calm and rational thing to do to help ease tensions in the region.
Fuck off CCP.
Yeah Taiwan has had independence far too long for them to accept being swept into the Chinese system.
A lot of hypocritical trolling in this thread. Tankie lemmy?
Itâs not Americaâs job to intervene in a civil war in East Asia. Iâm not sure how it doing so could be seen as anything but provocative.
The vast majority of American microchips are made in Taiwan at TSMC, if the peopleâs republic of china controlled this it would be devastating for the US and most western countries as china would have complete control over military chip production and likely would have access to American military secrets embedded in microchips produced there. It is of utmost importance to the entire western world that Taiwan maintains their self-government, whether or not it really is a part of china.
The fact that you call it a civil war is all we need to know.
edit: my bad, looking at your home instance would have been an even better way of immediately knowing youâre full of shit.
edit2: and yes, I am fully aware that both Taiwan and the PRC officially view themselves as the legitimate government of the whole of China but itâs pretty fucking clear that in practice they are separate countries to anyone who is not snorting red propaganda like a champ.
It is because they have had a defense pact for years. So itâs very much part of its job. Taiwan is the legitimate government of China and has simply been stuck off the cost in exile for years. The US never should have normalized relations with an illegitimate government in the first place.
Arming a secessionary territory after protecting it with European interventionism for decades is literally making it into a powder keg. Deliberately demonstrating military capabilities, like detonating over 1000 nuclear bombs in territories inhabited and used by the worldâs indigenous peoples, from the Pacific Islands to the deserts of Turtle Island, is a calm and rational deterrent strategy.
You are projecting your Western atrocities onto other people. Again.
The Chinese Civil War ended without Mao being able to capture Taiwan, where the KMT moved its Republic. No secession necessary. It was part of the ROC before the war and never part of the CCP.
Put your propagandized version on the bookshelf next to the story about your tanks running over your own youth to preserve your authoritarian system.
And you talking about indigenous people while you try to eradicate the Uyghurs in Xinjiang is another book on that shelf.
The fucking Europeans moved their navies in to defend the KMT and made it clear that they wanted to work with the KMT because Europe was anti-communist. Itâs not merely that the PLA couldnât take Taiwan.
The idea that because Taiwan was part of the ROC and therefore is legitimate because it still is is so fucking ridiculous I donât even know where to begin. Letâs maybe start with the White Terror that history books say started when the KMT declared martial law on the island but doesnât include the killing of 18k people on the island who rose up to fight the KMT. Why would that have happened if they were all just part of the ROC and everything was fine and continuous? Why would the White Terror last 40 years of it was just everyone on the island was totally fine being part of this continuous ROC you imagine in your delusion? Why would the KMT need to spend decades killing dissidents?
You can put your version of events into your needle and inject it straight into your track marked arms. You live off delusional coping mechanisms that allow you to maintain your self-concept as one of the good ones who sees and understands the true evil in the world.
Except I hate all the terrible shit America does and have no delusions about its terribleness. Two things are similtaneously true about Taiwan. They do not want to be under the control of mainland China and deserve to live free from oppression. Yet, under the rules based international system of sovereignty that is not based on popular sovereignty, mainland China has a substantial claim to Taiwan. This doesnât make their claim ethical or morally right as the system itself was made by imperial powers.
China is in part terrible because it has to exist in the terrible international system of imperialism and global capitalism. They needed to adopt the practices of global capitalism, imperialism, and nationalism to compete on the world stage and avoid being victims of imperialism. This doesnât make China the heroes, as they do the evil themselves, but it explains some of the evil. I donât know how to dismantle a global system, but only a fool would take Chinaâs word that theyâll totally do communism in the future, especially when they have so many tools for enslavement.
Taiwan would never attack China, the only way a war between China and Taiwan happens is if China invades Taiwan.
China saying this increases the âriskâ of war is nothing but doublespeak.
Imperialist China wants to take more land by force.
We should continue to stand up for the sovereign rights of any country being bullied by a larger country.
country
Might want to rephrase this. They do not call themselves a country. They call themselves a region of China.
Oh, you know what he means. They donât want to unreasonably provoke China so they play the âOne Chinaâ game. Call having your own Government and standing military whatever you want but âcountryâ is a pretty good label for it.
Youâre making up what they think instead of listening to what they actually say.
Is this comment coming from an American? I assumed that it is the case and found it hilarious.
B-but America did bad things in the past, so that makes it totally and completely okay for everyone else to do the same!
Hey, CCP! You mean âstealâ the island.
