Okay but jokes aside, how many users actually have issues with that? So far it never broke anything for me, even when it apparently should have, according to a forum post I only read several weeks late, after finally noticing the intervention required tag
I have installed arch on my work laptop two years ago now and I have never had a problem with it booting, logging in or functioning. Never as in not once. I do update it periodically and every time it just fucking works.
I used debian at a desktop at another work and the desktop had an nvidia card in it. Every time apt said “nvidia” the computer booted in single user mode or kernel panic.
The faulty GRUB patch was a widespread issue. Syu -> reboot -> fail to boot. It was especially annoyng since you couldn’t just rollback like with any other faulty arch update.
Besides that, during the 2-3 years I mained it, I’ve had Arch often fail to boot after updating it for the first time in a few weeks. And on endeavour the update script gave up one day, and so I had to remember to manually mkinitcpio or it would fail to boot.
Yes, I’ve been affected by the grub crap several times.
Been using arch and endeavour for about 5 years now, only ever had boot issues caused by Nvidia drivers. Outside of grub that is.
My backup pc had the most issues with updates, and it doesn’t have a dedicated GPU. I wouldn’t update it for a few weeks or a month+, update, fail to boot, rollback, try again in a few weeks and it would work.
The final straw was when I was working abroad with bad internet, and had to weigh whether -S or -Syu is more likely to cause a failure.
It happened twice for me and now i don’t have the time to backup everything and reinstall the os, so i moved to a debian base
The first time that this happened i spend a good chunk of time to learn how to fix the problem without reinstalling, the secound time i just moced everything to another driver, reinstalled and moved everything back, it took a feel hours but most of the time i was just waiting for the files to move, so i was able to do something else instead, i don’t use brtfs because it corrupted mi ssd once (i have no idea why), but i’m fine on mint, now i don’t have much time at home, and when i do i need to be sure that nothing will broke because i have a lot of work to do from my job and college, i really like arch but i really need something stable right now
Except if you upgrade ZFS pools to a newer version that’s not yet supported by Grub.
The intervention last year was only required if the grub package was updated and generated a config the older bootloader didn’t understand. You would have been fine either way as long as you didn’t generate a new config. I ignore grub updates now because I was caught with my setup.
Why is anyone still using grub? This is on you at this point
Because it’s the one that supports the most setups, like LUKS and LVM (on the root partition)
you guys use GRUB lol
NixOS superiority.
About to make the move I think, and just loaded up a thumb-drive this morning before wandering in here. Wish me luck!
Tumbleweed and Mint offer Snapper Rollback configured by default, available from the Grub menu. And that’s friggin’ noïce.
I’m more of a First World Anarchist myself, I only ever rescue my os-breaking, Arch-is-botched mistakes with a Live Ubuntu thumbdrive.
