Can someone explain me, why is it bad to think about yourself? This book teaches you, how to first think about yourself, than others.
She(or Nathan) wrote, that if you do something with “I want this, so I do this” manner, that isn’t great. The formula should be “This should be done, because of some rational reasoning, so I’ll do this”. If you are not involving others right to think/live/freedom.
Ayn Rand is a dumbass that encourages atomization of humanity, when humans are a social species. Placing the self over the whole is where we get fascism.
Where she states about atomozation? In her books her heroes communicate with each other, drinking and go lazy. They can’t communicate with people not their kind, 'cause they get real bored. I doubt you can talk and dance with people you are not interested in.
Yet again, they don’t put themselves above others, they mostly don’t judge at all. They state facts and that’s it, no hostility involved.
In the beginning of the story our so called heroes run their train through a red light because they don’t want to be late for a meeting. That’s not thinking for yourself. That’s not even thinking period. They are gambling not only their own, but dozens of other peoples lives to avoid a minor inconvenience. This is far from the only example of this happening.
Can you please tell me the chapter, I don’t remember this moment, to be honest. I would like to reread it
This book teaches you, how to first think about yourself, than others.
In a world of Ayn Rand everyone also works together. She wrote, that people should work with each other. They will benefit from this. One person is not capable of doing everything. However, you can choose who to work with. You would always want to work with someone who does everything right and in time.
All people are not equal, and that is a fact, but in rational world they can work hard to be noticed by another rational person. You don’t judge by the look of their skin, cloths or fortune. You judge by the way they think. There would be no slaves, those who worked hard would earn more.
The machines are built by workers, but who made the blueprint? They sold it or shared it to make life more comfortable for themselves, thus making the progress. You will end up with better and more goods. This is one of the reasons you must value yourself.
Money is virtue, because it’s one of the least thing people agreed on as equal value to something. I really don’t want to barter for the new phone, to be honest.
It’s a problem, that you are not getting paid enough, but that’s not problem of the money, that’s people who are paying less are a problem.
Communism isn’t equal too. You, in fact, would get paid the same amount as everyone else. What’s the point of doing better and more, if you get paid the same?
So I still don’t understand to be honest, are there other explanations? With all my pleasure, if everything is shared, I do not want to share my woman with someone, who needs it more. Share my workplace with someone who needs it more, but I will give it to someone, who’s better than me. Share my payment, because someone needs it more. If I want to, I have some surplus and I won’t need it, than sure, I will share. I won’t do it mandatory.
So I still don’t understand to be honest,
No, you understand perfectly well - you are a simp for parasite ideology. Just like Ayn Rand was.
Ideologues reasoning in a void again.
Sir, this is the real world. There has never been a world of Ayn Rands, and there never will be. Ideologies that fail to take reality into account are fatally flawed at the root.
Don’t worry, commies aren’t after your wife. That’s not what the end of “private property” means. First off, wives aren’t property, but even if they were, they’re not the "means of production’ socialists want to seize.
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the 1917 revolution was marked by a series of rapes like a lot of conflicts around the globe, but it was never about “stealing” (🤮) the wives of the bourgeoisie.
The reason for leftists to reject your candid ideology is that, in the real world, private hands keep the vast majority of the surplus to themselves and fuck entire societies up because of it. Interestingly, that is why they don’t believe in philanthropy as a mean for rich fucks’ money to trickle down to those in need.
I’m neurodivergent and fell for this shit hard. It’s actually pretty embarrassing to look back on. Luckily, I got better
There is a very true Tumblr post that goes “it’s really annoying, because “Atlas Shrugged” is such a raw title. The titan that holds up the world on his shoulders decides “no, fuck this shit” and shrugs. For it to be wasted on a book that’s just “I hate poor people, actually.” Is a travesty”
I’m an absolute waste of oxygen moron so for the first time ever i’m realizing what the title meant… Thanks! Lol
I’m a fan of yours, Flying Squid - I like your comments and posts.
And this meme is so very true. If I may quote someone named “John Rogers”, who I don’t know very well, but can find his words by searching “ayn rand lord of the rings orcs”, here is something that I think others might find meaningful:
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
Thanks! That’s very kind of you. And yes, I love that quote. Also, this comic:
found this a good read: https://onlysky.media/alee/why-libertarian-cities-fail/
i love their point about atlas shrugged. all the rich “Dooers” have retreated to a single valley, while the world falls into chaos without the billionaire ruling class.
In this valley, everything is prestine. You have untouched forrests, fields, perfect lakes.
And somehow, you have one guy logging the forest making enough lumber for a city of a hundred, despite the forest being untouched. you have fresh oranges and coffee… despite the world falling apart. you have a single doctor, and no hospital, ect ect.
It also required Galt inventing what was essentially a perpetual motion machine.
But my favorite thing about Atlas Shrugged is the idea that governments should stop interfering with railroads since it is impeding their progress.
You want governments to stop giving you land through eminent domain? Cool. Good luck.
Galt’s Gulch was much more Socialist Commune than libertarian.
Money had no use as Ragnar was running around distributing gold to everyone on a regular basis, John Galt had built a literal free energy machine and was giving the power away AND giving vanishingly cheap lectures on how to build one. Even the scarce resources (like the only car in the entire society) were being rented out for 50 cents a day.
Plus all these fiercely competitive supercapitalists would just step aside and just allow competitors to operate with no challenge. The iron mine, and coal mine were all running at industrial scales to serve a town of a few hundred (they had robot labour and free energy) and when the copper miner just showed up they just let him stake a an exclusive claim and start digging with no issue.
I highly recommend Adam Lee’s critical readthrough on patheos.com https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/series/atlas-shrugged/
I just like that step one of Rand’s utopia is violating the laws of physics. It can’t work if energy is scarce, so her solution is magic.
