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I don’t mean to shock you but… North Koreans can’t travel anywhere.

Am I missing something ?

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North Koreans with passports can travel to 12 countries visa-free, including Suriname and Guyana

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North Koreans with passports

Really though how many people is that? Like 20 or 30?

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Which entirely consists of the espionage dept

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Probably not available to everyone

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And is this common, traveling abroad to these places?

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of course they can, to the countries that have diplomatic relations with them, but not many countries, of course.

Fun fact:

As of 2024, Malaysia is the only country in Southeast Asia that does not maintain diplomatic relations with North Korea.

source

If Kim Jong-Nam assassination rings a bell…

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They were saying that the limiting factor might not be whether other countries allow them in but rather if their own country allows them to leave.

Not that anyone would want to leave the glorious workers’ paradise to begin with.

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Yes, we can safely assume that those who leave NK are somehow working for the government either officially or unofficially and thoroughly vetted to ensure that they will come back to their glorious country.

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I don’t remember what countries, but I know there are North Korean restaurants in other countries. With actual North Korean women working there, having to live on premises and be vetted for political loyalty while essentially being under surveillance.

Looked it up and Wikipedia was saying they’re all essentially fronts for laundering foreign currency to send back home. Other sites have been saying that these restaurants have been closing since the pandemic.

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Didn’t help they kidnapped people from Japan.

Then lied about the kidnappings.

Then lied about them being dead.

Then lied about them being alive.

Then lied about their ashes.

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Then lied about them being dead

Then lied about them being alive.

Well they might have been right at some point, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt…

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what if, both times, they were wrong at that particular point in time?

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Not just Japan. When they need language teachers and translators, they just dock their subs close to the beach of the country, and kidnap anyone they found there.

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NGL that sounds like propaganda, and not reality.

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It does sound like that. Exaggerated for sure, however it’s not that far from reality although to a lesser extend during 70’s, if I am not mistaken.

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More like a joke

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Reminds me of a story about how they kidnapped a movie director to make films for them. I don’t remember the details though.

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Okay but I can’t speak North Korean so I’m going to be pretty bad language teacher, I’m not sure how that’s supposed to work.

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32 points

P sure they cant go anywhere

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There’s a lot of North Korean people in China. From what I heard, it’s not for having a good time

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Are you referring to dead bodies in the Gobi desert?

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I was referring to the effective slave labour in Chinese factories

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Wow I didn’t know that at all!

This is not new

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I didn’t say it was new, but it’s new to me.

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This sub is “Today I Learned”, not “Today You Learned.” OP just learned about it and wanted to discuss with other people. Seems reasonable.

And, indeed, though I knew most of this, I’ve still found some of the discussion interesting. What, then, is your problem? No one is forcing you to visit the thread at all.

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