73 points

Pretty clear neither of these imperialists give a fuck about the people, and only care about its effects on the election. Reps make a big deal out of nothing to use against dems, and dems concede to them.

Just the usual ratchet effect

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How are democrats blocking movement back left? Unless it’s refusing to play dirty, like freezing out a Supreme Court nominee for almost a year, or passing knowingly constitutionally dubious laws to let the courts essentially legislate from the bench, I just don’t see it that way at all.

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They keep actually leftist politicians out of the race by not having real primaries, instead selecting milquetoast right-of-center candidates that manage to lose against current republicans.

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3 points

Sanders 2020!

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It’s not even refusing to play dirty. Liberals haven’t had all 3, POTUS, Senate, and House, at the same time in my lifetime.

They were within a couple seats in Biden’s first 2 years. Manchin and Sinema gave Democrats a majority, but they still didn’t have a liberal majority. And with the extremely politicized SCOTUS, there are major limits to what liberals can accomplish.

Not only that, but conservative propaganda works really well. It’s not even always policy. Identity politics are actively working against Democrats. So when something that is policy like immigration gets national attention, Democrats cannot afford to ignore it. If they do, THEY WILL LOSE to the people who are radicals.

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So you are less than 14 years old?

2009-2011, they had all 4, POTUS, Senate (59 seats), House and SCOTUS.

Seriously learn some damn history. And it’s extremely disingenious to claim that the Dems didn’t have all 3 from 2021-2023.

Further the last time the GOP has had all 3 was in 2007. Yet, somehow they manage to get their agenda through.

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You know what’s easy though?

Not bypassing congress to sell arms to a country specifically for genocide. (Biden and Israel)

Democrats will break rules / norms, it’s just almost never for causes that help people.

He could have simply not done anything, and it would have been better.

If “Don’t go out of your way to support genocide.” is asking too much, then don’t be surprised when people aren’t excited to vote for your candidate.

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Democrats have made it a point to block or stifle any leftist candidates and progressive ideals. They constantly capitulate to the right while telling the left (i.e. Eisenhower Republicans) to fuck off. Adam Schiff’s bid to block Katie Porter from a Senate seat is the most recent example of this. They were stunned when Hillary lost to Obama, and furious when Biden was challenged by Sanders. They have ALWAYS backed conservative candidates over even centrist ones, and only propose popular bills when they know they can’t pass them. There will never be a challenge to Citizens United because they benefit directly from it, and the SCOTUS gives them an excuse to never challenge. They refused to codify Roe when they KNEW it would be overturned because they still think it’s a cash cow. They will give every excuse imaginable for inaction but never a plan for action.

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25 points

Biden wants to massively increase ICE’s budget. Most folks on the left would rather ICE not exist at all.

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28 points

Go back and look at the '90s. Conservative Democrats are practically progressives by comparison.

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9 points

90s Democrats gave us the Telecommunications Act of 1996, and they had previously agreed that yes, conservatives need a bigger voice in media and government. They literally laid the groundwork for fascism, like handing Hitler his PA system

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Wait isn’t the stop in this diagram set up so that the ratchet will loosen?

It seems that the nut will only move to the left. All the spinning on the right will just be a bunch of loud clatter but it’s barely gonna nudge the nut. All it’s gonna do is give the hand more room to turn the nut to the left.

I don’t think this diagram conveys what you want it to.

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I love it. Make Trump and the GOP look like the obstructionists that they are.

Both red and blue governors want some sort of way to handle the record number of people crossing right now. That bipartisan bill would’ve easily passed if it was brought to the floor. But if the border started to chill out, Trump wouldn’t be able to complain about the border at the podium.

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“record number”

Propaganda works, I see. Every election year.

There is no border crisis and never has been.

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Search for the public records around “US southern border encounters.” All of this stuff has been logged and quantified for decades. We’re up around 2.4m annual encounters. Previous large peaks hit 1.6m annually. During the Obama years it was floating around 0.4m annually.

Pew has a good breakdown, but it hasn’t been updated for 2023. It ends at 2021, and things have only gone up since then.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

Many towns / states that support sanctuary are hitting budget ceilings for helping refugees and asylum-seekers. Racists and xenophobes have been crying wolf for decades, and unfortunately, that has made many people dismiss any “border crisis” claims they hear, even when the data supports the claim.

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To bad that Americans are lazy worthless shits who wont fucking work. Let them in already; our fields need tending; our homes beed cleaning; and I need a taco truck on my street corner.

There is no border crisis, and never has been.

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Chart really makes it looks like this happens every 10-20 years, and I doubt anything was changed those times it happened. The huge spike this time is because we had a global pandemic that started in 2020 and kept everything low

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9 points

“gonna own the people I keep calling a threat to democracy by doing exactly what they want and then telling them they’re stupid for not voting for it”

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Biden HAS TO listen to the American people. And the American people are demanding that he do something. If he doesn’t, they will put in someone who does.

Sure the GOP has forced the issue into people’s heads. But Biden HAS TO face that reality.

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Democrats gave Republicans everything they wanted on the border in exchange for funding Ukraine

And then orange man said no, so the Republicans said “well now I am not doing it”

And so here we are, with both sidesists screaming that Biden has to do something about the “border crisis” when the Republicans have shot down their own bills

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5 points

Wait, so now the GOP is reflecting reality that Biden has to face? Getting really confused over here and starting to feel like I don’t live in a democracy.

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6 points

The American people are demanding a ceasefire but he doesn’t seem to be listening to that.

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3 points

Instituting far right border policy to… own the Republicans? Good plan.

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20 points

They’re totally different though guys I swear

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Just because you dislike both, doesn’t mean they’re the same.

If Trump gets elected, he’s going to be reinstalling those deadly traps Texas put up. He’s going to shut down all the crossings he can. Closed border. He’s going to steal migrant children again. He’s going to come after DACA kids.

They are not the same.

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You are the correct one here. The US lost thousands of children from that kids and cages Trump bullshit. Literally lost them. One father hung himself to death after losing his child to the Trump family torture bs.

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People don’t remember how fucked up Trump was.

That or there are SOME pro-Trump people in here feigning offense or manipulating the votes.

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7 points

Texas can reinstall the “Traps” on their own, and probably already have. They have also reinstalled the razor wire etc they had too. Is Turmp actually already president or something? Why are you conflating the actions of a state with the president?

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Either you don’t pay attention to the news or you’re a plant trying to make Democrats stay home. Have fun with your wall. Enjoy watching kids get ripped away from their parents. Enjoy watching kids who only know English get deported to a country they don’t understand. Enjoy watching people drown in the ocean. That’s what you’re advocating for. If you think it’s bad now, it’s going to be so much worse if Trump gets elected. The president can’t always force it one way or another. But they can help or hinder these actions.

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As opposed to Biden who is much superior because he’s only going to do 99% of that. You know the concentration camps are still running right? The same ones the dems performatively denounced when Trump was in power?

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30 points

Are you suggesting BOTH SIDES might have terminal flaws contributing directly to the downfall of the American society?

howdareyou.wav

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Are you suggesting BOTH SIDES might have terminal flaws contributing directly to the downfall of the American society?

If this were true I’d vote twice for both of them.

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It’s good you noticed that one is a fascist, racist, misogynist piece of shit and the other is just old and bordering on senile. I, for one, will take old and senile over selfish and willful destruction of my country, thanks.

If a third, viable option that doesn’t split votes and guarantee a Trump win, happens to come about, then I’d be happy to vote for him or her. Until then, I’ll be voting for the most viable opponent to Trump — and right now that’s Grandfather Octogenarian.

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He’s clearly just jerking the guy’s chain after he told his fellow magats to block the last border bill.

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Okay, so there’s a master example of how to finesse your opponent. The guy may be 81 years old, but his brain is working just fine.

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Dude is the definition of speak softly and carry a big stick. He’s fucking smart. He’s done this type of stuff all term. It’s how he kept us from going into default.

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