I prefer not to support Google, so I’ve been using alternative platforms. However, I’ve noticed that the YouTubers I follow have stopped reuploading their videos to these platforms. Has anyone else observed this? What could be the reason behind this change?

Relevant links: Brodie Robertson eBuzz Central Foundation for Econ. Education Upper Echelon Gamers

89 points

No platform pays nearly as well as YouTube does on average. If they upload to other platforms, and you watch the content on those other platforms, they’re going to make significantly less money than if you watch on YouTube. Even if there’s increased reach from uploading to multiple platforms, the creator will almost certainly make less—so there’s less than no incentive for them to upload elsewhere.

permalink
report
reply
59 points

I believe Nebula pays fantastically well, at least according to Sam from Wendover Productions. This is attributed to the fact that Nebula charges a subscription and half the subscription fees are divvied up to the channels according to watch time.

However, he owns a significant portion of Nebula so he’s not a disinterested information source.

permalink
report
parent
reply
35 points

It’s creator owned. If they’re on nebula, they have a stake in it, writ large

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

Nebula was also made by content creators in response to how bad YouTube is for them.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

My annual subscription to Nebula expired last month. I didn’t renew. They seemed to have a mix of exactly what you get on YouTube and some peculiar TV documentaries that weren’t quite good enough to make brand name TV channels

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I don’t think that from a purely “rational consumer” perspective Nebula is worth the $30 per year demanded. But to me, it’s like a Patreon subscription. I can support my favourite creators and I get some nice perks in return, like offline video downloads and advertising and sponsor-free programming. These perks are not worth $30 a year to me. But I will continue to support them anyway.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’m broke, so if they exclusively upload to nebula, they aren’t getting anything from my view because it doesn’t happen.

Uploading to both though seems like a good idea

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

There are original series on Nebula that cost a lot to make so I understand that they need to recoup the investment on those.

But most videos are released on both platforms. The Nebula versions usually have extended cuts and are free of adverts and sponsors, but the programming is otherwise the same.

permalink
report
parent
reply
26 points

Some like Vimeo actually charge the uploader, I believe.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

Yeah, Vimeo completely pivoted to basically being a white label video platform for business websites.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Also, YouTube is a removed to run, hardware wise, they must have farms upon farms of servers everywhere, on top of CND infrastructure. Do not envy their bandwidth bill. Few out there can or could compete, even if they wanted to.

permalink
report
parent
reply
37 points
*

99% of the times when something like this happens it’s about money, so just follow the money…

permalink
report
reply
23 points

One reason could be difference in how much the other platforms pay vs YouTube. Uploading multiple places also requires more effort and coordination, might not be worth it from their perspective…

permalink
report
reply
6 points

I know that Peertube doesn’t have any built-in monetization right now, so they would probably be relying on viewer charity to make money on some platforms.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Some do but it’s an agreement with their uploaders and the instance owners.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Interesting. I know that most Fediverse stuff doesn’t allow ads on the platform, so do the creators just get a cut of any money donated to the instance?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Yeah not happening, I have like 300 channels on my subscriptions.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Odysee supports automatic mirroring/cloning of your uploads

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

No money.

permalink
report
reply

Multiple major YouTubers would need to migrate simultaneously and make the new platform the only place to access their content before the viewers necessary for monetary gain move. And that is not likely to happen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

And the new platform would have to aggressively monetize its users, which is kind of the reason for avoiding YouTube.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Not enough people to watch. But even on Youtube, only shorts can get views better than the regular videos. Most people don’t search for content and they don’t like ads.

permalink
report
reply
5 points

Even if you try to search for content otside of youtube, it’s very difficult to find.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Ask Lemmy

!asklemmy@lemmy.world

Create post

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have fun

Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'

This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spam

Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reason

Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.

It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


Community stats

  • 9.4K

    Monthly active users

  • 4K

    Posts

  • 219K

    Comments