70 points

never in a million years would i have guessed that cotton is needed in artillery shells lmao

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44 points

Same to me. TIL

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16 points

The fabric of our life(-ending explosives)

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49 points

I assume/d the purpose of the ban is/was to further destabilize of Xinjiang, just as with the US-backed terrorist attacks, which are now being used as the pretext for the ban.

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30 points

Yup, they wanted to destabilize Xinjiang economically which would help create a fertile ground for extremism.

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I think it was Ben Norton that the US wants to find a reason to get away with banning all Chinese imports… but their capitalism is holding them back as “just pay more to make it at home” or “deal with the consequences of an embargo” is not an option for the fragile American economy.

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36 points
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Exactly, we’re kind of in a unique situation here as far as I can tell. Never before have we had a global empire that managed to deindustrialize its core to such an extent. US now recognizes the problem, but they have no idea how to tackle it.

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I’m glad that the head of capitalism is bleeding itself out, but its truly bizarre the decisions that they made. They should’ve hugged Russia and built them up like Japan after the collapse and they would’ve had a stalwart ally in the region with a shitton of oil and natural gas. And they really did drink the Kool-Aid that the PRC would inevitably become liberal if the economy kept growing.

I truly believe that the elites ACTUALLY believe the propaganda is poisoning the American Empire.

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19 points

I think so as well, these people drink their own kool aid.

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17 points

Of course the elites believe in their own propaganda. They actually consume more of it than the poor. They are more likely to get polsci degrees, “higher quality” education in history. They can watch more movies, read more news.

Propaganda exists to teach not just the subjects how to be good citizens, but also the elites as to how to manage and persuade class society.

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18 points

The United States is in a unique situation for those reasons and many more (the refinement of domestic anti-left programs comes to mind). We have plenty to learn from past leftist movements, but it gets frustrating when people try to map contemporary politics 1:1 onto the players of Weimar Germany, formation of the USSR, the Spanish Civil War, etc.

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20 points

Indeed, this is a trap I see a lot of people fall into as well where they just look for historic precedent without spending the time to understand how it differs from the current conditions. Genuine understanding requires what the actual forces driving the events are in each scenario.

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Not true, the Spanish (and Portuguese) also de-industrialized themselves.

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12 points

fair enough

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22 points
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Yup un the battle between patriotism and greed greeds gonna win out every time.

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It didn’t used to be that way, capital has become so powerful it actively threatens capitalism.

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14 points

For sure unfortunately I’m aware of what happens when the inherent contradictions of capitalism become unsustainable.

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40 points

US try to not hurt itself in it’s confusion challenge.

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No no no this is the plan … the PRC is going to suffer just you see…

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23 points

holding a knife to my own nose

This’ll really fuck up my enemies. Just watc- AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

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11 points

DO YOUR FOOT NEXT YOULL GET EM WITH THIS ONE YOU JUST WAIT AN SEE

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7 points

Taking out China’s GDP by reducing it’s US dollar holdings to worthless.

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22 points
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US used RISC-V BAN!

US became confused!

It hurt itself in its confusion!

It’s super effective!

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36 points

China is banned from exporting clothing with XJ cotton to the US & US-subjugated vassals, it must import even more from other countries.

I don’t get this point. If china can’t export cotton or cotton clothes why does it need to import more?

Also, I imagine that fast fashion is also contributing to this cotton shortage. It would be funny if this is what causes western governments to finally do something about fast fashion.

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26 points

US/EU won’t import clothes made with Xinjiang cotton, and China makes clothes. In order to export clothes made of cotton to US/EU, they have to import cotton from abroad to make clothes without Xinjiang cotton.

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27 points

So by banning XJ cotton, the US is forcing China to improve trade relations with third countries. Perfect.

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23 points

I made this second comment when I dove into the article, and I’m not sure what the adjective is when they say “it”. Maybe they meant to suggest that because China can’t sell its cotton to the United States, that the United States must import more cotton from abroad, which means the military industrial complex can’t take as much cotton from those places as well.

It said there are 80 other countries that export cotton. So maybe the clothing industry in the United States had to import more cotton from those sources… And those sources raised prices or something, may be leading to military industrial partners choosing not to buy as much cotton, therefore reducing how much cotton they had.

But I’m just taking a guess because that was kind of a weird grammar thing they did there.

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14 points

Nah, they’ll just ban all fast fashion coming out of China alone, and then call it good.

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