171 points

…solves the low-wage problem by hiring kids who don’t know better.

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Then we’ll just have to organise and unionise the kids too!

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Or better yet, we should enact laws that protect children from the workforce. Maybe we can call them “child labor laws”

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A preposterous idea! - conservatives, apparently.

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Be great if the kids learned to unionize early

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4 points

It used to be a funny joke about sending them to the spice mines on Kessel… now I miss them sometimes

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Kids being able to form their own unions in schools have never been a bad idea - but for some reason nobody on the left has ever spoken about this (as far as I can tell.)

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…solves the low-wage problem by hiring kids who don’t know better.

And they’re at work instead of school so they don’t learn better.

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5 points

It’s on the weekends, they wouldn’t go to school anyway

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8 points

Nor will they taste the freedom of being a child.

Just as what the overlord intended.

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1 point

Well we all know the undereducated love voting republicunt against their own best interests

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133 points

Wow did not realise that three of our states don’t have a minimum working age - NSW, Tasmania and South Australia.

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8 points

that is so fucked up

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Not as fucked up as it sounds. Federally, the minimum working age is 16 and parents are legally required to keep their kids in school until they’re 16. Most Aussies believe you need to be 14 and 9 months to get a job (beyond the family business), as that was an older minimum schooling requirement (decades ago).

Combined with the high quality of living, low poverty rate, high immigration (suppressing wages), and high minimum wage, this functionally meant that there was never any reason for the states to mandate a minimum working age — businesses didn’t seek to employ them.

Obviously now that capitalism has corrupted most governments and abandoned the social contract, we need to rethink all norms of modern society.

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Eh, I agree with you on most of that except the high minimum wage bit.

The minimum wage for anybody 15 or under is 40% of the wage for anybody over 21. I believe that not all industries do have that provision in their award, but all entry level jobs do. I guess it’s a bit of a miracle that it doesn’t keep going down further than 15, because if it did, maccas would probably be run by 11 year olds making 10% of the 21+ wage.

But even besides that, our minimum wage isn’t really high compared to the cost of living, which is the metric that really matters. Our minimum wage compared to elsewheres cost of living is not a good comparison

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Wait is this an Australian news story? I just assumed it was about somewhere here in the US

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35 points

Oh we’ve been doing this shit too don’t worry

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8 points

Is it similar to Texas but with kangaroos?

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Same. On second glance, though, the site in the tweet is a .net.au.

Not a guarantee, but certainly ups the odds.

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If it weren’t for the comment, I would haven’t just not noticed. I assumed the same. That’s fucked.

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Nope, this is indeed from Australia. I assumed it would’ve been the US too tbh. But you can tell because our ABC (capitalised) has a different logo to your abc (lower case), and the domain ends in .au (the internet country code for Australia)

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As someone who grew up in NSW it’s 14 and 9 months. Exceptions might exist for family businesses etc. but your 8-year-old can’t apply for a job at Woolies.

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Wait is this an Australian news story? I just assumed it was about somewhere here in the US

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113 points

The children yearn for the jam factory

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You can take the children out of the jam factory but you can’t take the jam factory out of the children

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39 points

Unless they fall into the industrial equipment, then you absolutely cannot take the children out of the jam factory.

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“Local child jammed into jam factory jam jams jam jammer.”

Edit: J’s are starting to look weird to me after staring at this too long.

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6 points

That’s my jam.

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89 points

Child poverty is a big issue but people seem to forget that work is the best thing again poverty /s

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Really? I’m over here in Texas and we seem to have found a completely different solution to childhood poverty. And childhood…

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Guns and building schools across the street from poorly regulated fertilizer factories.

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3 points

Where you work, but you’re still poor?

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Some people would rather be poor in a house than poor on the streets. This ain’t getting fixed in our lifetime make the best of your life you’re able to

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In that case, it’s your fault. Source: it’s always your fault, never blame the system. Only lazy people blame the system.

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Yes. Hence the little known technical term “again poverty” in that post.

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59 points

Some facts to consider:

  • This happened in New South Wales, in a very rural area. People are not going to commute out to this remote location for minimum wage.
  • Kids volunteer on the weekends and parents sign off on it.
  • Some of the kids like it because they don’t have anything else to do, they learn a job skill, and they make a little money.

That said, I don’t agree with it. Hire adults and do what everyone else does by having a “bring your child to work day/week” if you want to teach kids. Or make a field trip. Let’s not go backwards in society to benefit companies.

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Kids volunteer on the weekends and parents sign off on it.

I grew up in a poor rural area, and we had a bunch of child labor due to agriculture exceptions.

Most of it wasn’t kids earning a “life skill” or pocket money. It was poor kids who had to work. And usually their parents worked there too.

And they only need to be 12 for it to be legal.

The families need the kids to work, but the kids working inflates the labor pool and keeps wages low.

If a kids like 16 and wants to pick up a part time job, cool.

But little kids shouldn’t be holding down jobs.

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I made this exact argument yesterday on the shit hole formerly known as Reddit, and of course got nothing but backlash from angry neck beards who think everyone should be allowed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps at the age of 11.

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Having partially grown up with this shit, I would say these asshole can absolutely get fucked and do the work themselves. They good enough to count beans, they good enough to clear the land, plant em, take care of them, harvest them, and sell 'em all before they get to do beancounting duties. You count the beans you bring to market by the sweat of your own brows, no exceptions

Might help them realize why Protestant work ethic shit is garbage exploiter nonsense

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minimum wage” <- thars yer prooblem

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14 points

“Well if we pay much more than that, it will dip into OUR profit! What are we supposed to do, just make less money?!”

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6 points

Can’t spell “minimum wage” without “minimum age!”

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They might commute if it was easy and cheaper than what they’re paid. You want workers, make it worth their while.

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9 points

Oh, well then, it’s perfectly fine…

NO. WTF?!?

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How many hours. If it’s 2 or less per week I’m fine with it.

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