122 points

This feels very much like an /r/thathappened post

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As a running enthusiast whose varied from running ~25 miles a week to having to restart from nothing, what the guy is talking about is extremely common. I’ve followed many different plans from many runners, sometimes their names are attached, sometimes not, and most of them I couldn’t tell you what they look like. I will say Olympic runners are the most common. I’ve even come across hers. Nothing about this rings as implausible to someone remotely interested in the topic. I guess I could understand from a total outsider perspective, but from someone who looks into that topic often? Absolutely plausible. I see no reason not to believe them.

Edit: the amount of stories Tony Hawk posts like this and never gets questioned also just makes me wonder a bit about why multiple people have already commented the way you did.

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8 points

Wouldn’t a guy analyze a guy’s training instead of a women’s? I don’t run but I’d imagine that training would be at least a little different for women than it is for men.

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29 points

Not really. I’m sure elite performers, possibly. But training plans aren’t generally gendered from anything I’ve come across.

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18 points

I’ve never paid attention to the sex or gender identity of who writes training programs if the credentials check out

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8 points

Or maybe he’s an analyst.

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2 points

Pretty sure the Tony Hawk thing is like a running joke, I’m not sure how many of those are legit at this point. I still laugh at them all.

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I’ve never come across anyone that just pulls out a training schedule when I say “I run”.

Usually there’s some follow up questions about goals, training, whatever.

But just straight up grabbing your phone and pulling out a training schedule? THAT’S the implausible part, not that he was using her training schedule.

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24 points

You have no idea what the conversation is. It was boiled down to “I run.” Why are you going out of your way to assume a whole bunch of stuff that isn’t mentioned?

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You find it unlikely that someone who runs at the Olympic level would be amongst people that are likely to nerd out about their training schedules?

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This feels very much like a /r/nothingeverhappens comment.

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61 points

Inside you there are two wolves.

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27 points

God damn it Moon Moon.

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18 points

One smokes crack, The other smokes crack.

You are addicted to crack.

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17 points

It’s a good day at the Furry convention.

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1 point

Oh damn, so I’m not a lone wolf?

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-9 points

Please don’t make meta reference comments a thing here, I beg you

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16 points

You’re going to be very disappointed if you think a social media platform populated mostly by ex-redditors won’t eventually take on the behaviors of reddit.

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7 points

Feels a lot like /r/subredditdrama

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3 points

/r/ reference comments are littered all over comments sections on sites like YouTube and TikTok despite not linking anywhere when outside of reddit. Do you really think there’s any chance of it not catching on here?

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-9 points

I mean, just consider how astronomically improbable the entire situation is for a second instead of falling for rage bait.

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19 points

It’s extremely possible. I came across her plan in researching running. She’s popular. Not all runners publish stuff. She’s one of the few names in running I recognize but I couldn’t for the life of me even describe what she looks like let alone recognize her on my own.

And why is this rage bait? Who is angry? It’s humorous. Why do you assume folks are supposed to be angry reading this?

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17 points

The only people who seem to be raging are the ones trying to intimate that its a fake scenario, everyone else seems to be rolling their eyes or chuckling.

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11 points

What at all is improbable about it?

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2 points

for this specific marathon runner, maybe, but there are a lot of professional athletes

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-10 points

also, r/imverysmart

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That’s because it is. We’re supposed to expect that a random person had compiled detailed running stats on a person he just happened to sit next to on a plane.

This is just a story to manufacture outrage, like most of social media.

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Where’s the outrage? This is a funny story in the same vein as Tony Hawk’s various “You look like Tony Hawk” moments. Its like everyone in this thread saw its a woman and assumed she’s complaining instead of telling a fun story.

Edit as I realize half the comments trying to call this rage bait are literally just you instigating lol. Touch grass.

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The outrage is because the person who made the original post is a woman.

The vast majority of men really don’t like it when women do things or talk about their experiences, especially if the women are good at or enjoy the things they do and/or talk about men behaving like men towards them.

(Watch how fast I get down voted and mansplained to about how wrong I am, lmao)

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-3 points

What is touch grass?

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10 points

I’m not sure why you assume the person was random. There’s no indication that she hops on planes randomly. Professional runners do a lot of traveling to and from events, and it makes sense that other people connected to the sport (and likely to have detailed running stats on runners) might also be on those same flights.

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16 points

Its almost like they’re some sort of community built around shared interest! I swear some of the people here really need to fuckin touch grass lol, especially who you’re replying to.

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1 point

It depends on the analysis. I’ve done plans and there are tools that just print out the analysis of how well you improved in different areas. It could have been an analysis of trying the plan. Once you’re into long distance, you may try different plans to get past a plateau. I don’t see how you could analyze the plan itself, so I just assumed it was an analysis of implementing the plan. Cause that’s common.

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84 points

Why not tell him? Who wouldn’t love that?

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8 points

Someone who makes assumptions about women and confidently tells them how they should be doing the things they are already doing.

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63 points

Just sounds to me like he’s passionate about something. I guess he could be an ass, but to jump to that conclusion from just “you should train high milage” and then providing analysis is really a bit much.

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22 points

My dad would be that guy, but he’s a running coach and was a marathon runner for like 50 years, so he loves talking about it.

There definitely wouldn’t be any thought of, “you’re a woman so you need advice,” since he’d do the same thing to a man.

In fact, if we actually accept this completely unbelievable story, the fact that he’s pulling stats from Women runners shows he’s not being sexist.

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Probably more along the lines of “I found this amazing program, check this out”

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Not really. Unsolicited advice can be very condescending. You’re telling them that info because you don’t believe they know it. Just ask them how familiar they are on the topic if it’s truly from a place of passion. Cause passionate or not, if they already know the info, it’s annoying to listen to someone just spout about something you already know. And it’s worse if they just assumed you didn’t know.

Edit: also, I’d take her opinion on the situation over yours any day. She decided that it would have someone not gone over well for the guy, so I’d imagine she had a reason. You’re the one assuming she acted without reason which is truly odd.

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I mean, if the recommendations were prompted, sure. But if he just starts telling her what she should be doing without prompting, its that whole “mansplaining” thing I heard about.

Admittedly we only have her context, he could have just been passionately recounting his own routines and she may have misinterpreted it, or exaggerated for effect and humor.

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I take it you’re not a woman or afab presenting then? Go ask a woman you trust to tell you what it means when a man starts explaining her hobbies to her as if she doesn’t understand them.

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Running plans are not gendered for the most part. It’s possible some exist, but they are not common, especially amongst enthusiasts as opposed to elite athletes.

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Any person unsure about their safety sitting next to a stranger with no options for escape. I wouldn’t feel particularly comfortable in such a situation.

UPDATE: I don’t understand the downvotes. I have read many comments saying similar things in response to the story: give this man the benefit of the doubt, not every behavior is mansplaining, you’re all judgmental and jumping to harsh conclusions, and so on.

I used to be in that chorus until my wife explained to me one thing: when the cost of failure is high enough, constant vigilance and suspicion is necessary for protection and maybe even survival. And I could either accept that or not.

It felt grim and I felt disappointed by the whole conundrum, but I had to accept it as it is. From there, my view of these kinds of situations changed.

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Because it isn’t true. It’s pretty much statistically impossible.

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6 points

Statistically improbable

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26 points

I find this hard to believe…if the guy’s doing analysis, he’d surely know who she was. He’d be a big enough “fan” of running to even start doing analysis. Man, the internet is just full of BS.

Anyway, I’ll pretend this was real and it’s kinda funny.

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Idk, I’d believe it. I’ve been involved in a few sports to the point that I’m doing deep diving into elites trainings out of curiousity. For some athletes, the only picture I would see is a small thumbnail profile pic that was basically indecipherable, or they would be in athletic gear with hats and such. I definitely wouldn’t recognize them on the street, and it would be a crap shoot if I’d recognize them on an airplane. The only ones that I’d have a shot at are Alex Honnold, Tommy Caldwell and Andrew Skurka.

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Absolutely not. I’ve followed plans and couldn’t tell you what the person looks like. It’s usually not about knowing a lot about the person but the popularity of the plan. And I’ve come across hers so at least in my opinion, it’s a common one. I find this no different than the countless stories Tony Hawk says that border the same concept. He just gets believed a lot more easily for whatever reason.

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I’m pretty sure the venn diagram of people who give unsolicited workout advice and people who don’t pay attention to the by line is just a circle.

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22 points

The expression should be “I had too much heart to tell him.” A person lacking heart would have told them, gleefully.

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No, “didn’t have the heart” doesn’t mean you don’t have heart, just means you have a different kind of heart, so it works fine.

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11 points

I had too many hearts to tell him. My blood pressure is through the roof.

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2 points

Or your a time lord

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I didn’t have any heart to tell him. I was dead.

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Ahh I see… It should be DON’T don’t have a heart.

Thanks for clearing that up!

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A person lacking heart would have told them, gleefully.

TIL I’m lacking heart.

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This happens a lot in the firearms community. I get told about x, y, z guns and how they function. But I have all those guns and have trained on the less accessible. I own full auto legally but every other day I’m told I can’t own one. People be dumb.

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