This is why it’s essential for those debates to happen. Yes, both men are declining mentally, but Biden can at least make a coherent argument, even if he mixes up names sometimes.
There is no excuse for either candidate to avoid debates anymore. we need to hear them talk, without prepared speeches. I will take Biden’s odds on that over Trump’s any day.
If Biden wins this thing, I think history will find that the reason he beat Trump twice was that he was not at all intimidated by him. He takes Trump seriously, but also has the courage to call him out for the liar he is, convincingly, without dismissing his supporters as a bunch of losers. That takes a bit of confidence that only age can bring. Maybe Bernie could have done it, but I don’t think any other candidate could. Clinton absolutely failed at that.
And to clarify here. Biden is declining because we all do at that age. No one is immune to that. Trump is declining because he has abused who knows how many different drugs and fuck knows what else over the decades, add that history to age and it’s never going to be good. Biden has always had a stutter and while I know you didn’t mention it, it’s been used a bully stick by the maggats seemingly unaware of the fact that their guy has been deranged and unable to stay on topic for years.
And your point is?
My point is that it’s expected to have some mental decline by that age but I would still bet on Biden if they went toe to toe on jeopardy or at a bars trivia night. And while Biden wouldn’t have been my first choice for president to begin with, he is still light years better than trump ever was even at this point and I’ll take Biden over most of the current choices on the left especially because those others have zero chance of winning.
With and without the help of things like heavy drinking, drug use, lifestyle, etc, everyone ages differently. I know this from my own family and watching the world around me. Trump has been incoherent for a couple of decades now while Biden has been able to control it (for the most part).
I agree with all of that. His issues go beyond his stutter, though. His mouth has always been a step or two ahead of his brain, and he got himself into trouble in the past saying stupid shit. He has run for President for years and years, and couldn’t win until Trump made it OK to say stupid stuff.
Are you talking about Biden here? I don’t remember him really running in any elections after serving with Obama. Trump is the one who had to run multiple times and only had a chance when he switched from dem to republican and got backing from putin and others, plus the msm thinking he had no chance so they used him for ratings and helped him win, yes, even the left wing media. If they had just stopped giving him attention we wouldn’t be in this mess.
And what stupid stuff has Biden said? Aside from gaffs that everyone has especially when you talk as much as they do and when you are being pulled in several directions, etc.
Biden was a front runner in 88 due to his public speaking being so exceptional. Didn’t have a hint of a stutter either.
It wasn’t till reporters starting questioning him about plagiarism till he had to drop out. And it wasn’t because of the plagiarism.
It’s because when someone challenges Biden, he’s always lost his temper and started insulting them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho
All that IQ stuff at the start is like what trump does. And all those statistics he rattled off turned out to be lies. When they were fact checked he dropped.
But the point is, Bidens current issues with speeching isn’t his stutter, he got over that while he was still a child. What’s happening now is what will happen to all of us if we’re lucky enough to live that long. His age is effecting him like it would anyone else.
So maybe we should run someone 20 years younger who’s only 61? Younger would be better, but 81 is just ridiculous
The times he tried running for president he backed out for the blatant lies he told while running. No speech impediment forces someone to lie.
Shit, I’m 34 and I mix up names sometimes. If I had to keep track of as many people as he does, I’d mix up names all the time.
This right here. I’m (soon to be) 43 and I’ve always been bad with names. I drive for a living (uber, etc and my own service) I see so many people and have so many regulars that it’s only the most frequent regulars and those with unique names who I could pick out of a lineup.
It is important that, eventually, they are told they are retarded losers though… Even if Trump wins.
The person in the chair stopped being important quite a while ago. Now both parties just have lists of smart/rich people willing to implement their specific policies, and they try not to fire critically important gov employees.
I’m not both siding the issue. One side attracts all the Nazis and KKK.
Republican voters: “Does he still piss off the many, many, many groups of people we openly hate and wish harm upon more than any other candidate could?”
Well yes, but what does that have to do with effective governance?
Republican voters: "what the fuck is governance?"
This is almost word-for-word an interaction I had with a coworker yesterday. Said she voted Orange this primary because “he’s the only one to fix this damn gender issue”, so I asked her what she thought of his policies on foreign affairs and the domestic wage gap.
I got a double-chinned shrug and an “idunno”. Lmfao our country is going to burn because a vast swath of people would rather see hundreds of thousands prosecuted for socially-engineered offenses instead of nurturing the human condition.
On a solemn note, our country’s governance has become a joke. A circus of clowns too busy honking horns and throwing pies at each other to notice the tent around them is ablaze. To everyone, please, do not take our country’s governance as a joke. Serious, irreversible consequences oft come from impotent or non-existent legislative power.
We stand at a precipice, so please vote. Vote. VOTE. VOTE.
I mean, you really have to hand it to Fox and the right-wing propaganda machine for so successfully turning such a stupid non-issue into the top priority for a bunch of people.
I mean it’s wrenchingly sick, but they’ve pulled it off so well.
From the outside, I think Fox News was only able to do that because in US culture, TV and movies are more revered than anywhere else, and therefore people’s opinions, when voiced on TV, are taken way more seriously than they should be.
It’s hard to explain what I mean but it’s a feeling of “if it’s on TV, there must be something to it” which is very strong in US culture, and this enables the worst and most evil people to influence public opinion, even if they spew nothing but lies or phantasies.
As for movies, I am always totally in awe of how many movies a person in the US watches - going to the movies once or even twice a week is widespread, which is odd because most movies aren’t worth watching. The rest of the days they watch even more movies and TV shows at home. I always wonder what they get from that.
Listening to Knowledge Fight (the Alex Jones analysis podcast), I learned that Jones frequently uses the plot of Hollywood movies as a source for his insane conspiracy theories about “the globalists”. So it seems like he knows that many dumb Americans aren’t able to differentiate between movies and reality, because they watch more movies than interact with people and matters IRL.
Don’t get me wrong, I love movies and TV shows too, but nobody can tell me there’s enough good ones out there to fill every damn evening of the week. I go to the cinema maybe once a year, and watch the odd TV shows maybe every 3-4 years (because I don’t want to spend my time watching crap).
It’s so strange but also so obvious that Americans who love Trump have the exact same worries about the world that Putin’s voters, the Russian country bumpkins, had when they still were able to vote in non-sham elections: Gender and gender roles, homosexuality, the end of toxic masculinity, etc. It’s all they care about, and I think it speaks volumes about their innermost fears about their own lives.
If only they just realized as long as trans people and democrats have rights, so will they. They want so badly to be oppressed
They want both victimhood and domination, at the same time, and being able to hold that wild dissonance in their heads without alarm bells going off is what makes them Republicans. Republican media has trained them into believing that being both victim and oppressor is a perfectly valid position to hold, and because it feels good to believe that, that they deserve to be powerful enough hurt others and also bear no responsibility for that power as they are the victims of the people they want to hurt, many do.
They aren’t special or anything, critical thinking and reasoning must be taught. Without that, most people rely on their feelings. The Nazis convinced massive swaths of Germans that because Jews and other groups they hated were “victimizing the German people,” scapegoating them of course, the German people should allow the Nazis to murder them in their name, guilt free because clearly the german people were the victims of these scapegoats.
Herd mentality is a hell of a drug. So is Schadenfreude. American Republicans are addicted to both. Not entirely their fault either, Fox “News” and other right wing propaganda made them into what they’ve become over decades. Free speech weaponized into a a cancerous means of indoctrination through appealing to fear and hatred.
It’s not a question of whether or not they notice, it’s a question of whether or not they care. They don’t vote for him because of his policies, they vote for him because he wants to hurt the people they don’t like. They vote for him because “The Left” doesn’t want him. He literally says his first day in office would be his Dictator Day and they ate it up.
I think they care, just not in a way normal people would - for Trump voters, it’s 100% about trolling, annoying, hating, and secretly wishing dead anyone they deem to be the “outside group”. And the worse Trump gets, the louder will that outside group’s opposition to him be. Which in turn gives his followers great satisfaction. So they care in a negative way, along the lines of “the people we hate and want dead will be so outraged by his gaffes, the news will be soo delectable to watch tomorrow! I’ll come so hard watching them rage!!”
Trump speeches may sound like listening to a four-year-old explain “The Lord of the Rings,”
LMAO
they know that he’ll let them hurt who they want to hurt and they don’t care about anything else. I think to a lot of them a mentally incompetent trump is a bonus because he’ll be easier to steer.
