Ideally, there’d be a simple RPM installer compatible with Alma 9 that I can point to a samba share that holds all the photos, kind of like what I do with Jellyfin. Also nice if it uses an otherwise unused port or I can easily set what port it uses.

My googling is finding a bunch of docker stuff, which always seems needlessly complicated to me vs an RPM… I’m also using a low powered x86 tiny computer to front JellyFin and would like to host this on the same computer vs needing another server.

Any ideas?

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I recently started using https://github.com/immich-app/immich

It’s basically a self hosted Google Photos and it’s working really well. You can just mount your heap of photos into the container, declare it as external library and you’re good to go.

After a few hours/days of training the face recognition, extracting meta data, generating thumbnails ans possibly transcoding videos you’ll have a very responsive and easily searchable timeline of ALL your pictures and videos.

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I love how they literally ripped off Google Photos’ interface, including using the same Material icons. I could navigate it via muscle memory. 😅

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Something like Immich or PhotoPrism is probably the way to go.

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Get out of the anti container mindset. Getting started with docker takes half an hour. You need to learn 3-4 commands to use other people’s services. Everything is easier than RPMs afterwards.

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Wait, you don’t use containers?

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No. We exist.

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They’re also useful because they’re easy to deploy, contain all the dependencies needed, portable, and isolate things breaking from affecting the host or other containers.

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Containers are useful for a lot more things than scaling. E.g. portability, ease of setup, dependency separation.

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The confidence with which you make this factually incorrect statement is mind bending.

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Containers have numerous other benefits. Checkout this blog post, it goes into some of them:

https://cosmicbyt.es/posts/demistifying-containers-part-1/

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If you’re talking about k8s or similar, the initial time investment is heavy. After that though, it’s not very hard to get containers running with HA, better network segmentation and compatibility across run times. Containers are a lot more portable too, and allow granular levels of isolation and security.

Also, I personally think SELinux is somewhat hard to do well.

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Idea: ditch rpm and start using containers.

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I don’t want a research project. I just was hoping there was an easy to use program to make the viewing better than samba shares. Maybe I just need a set of programs that will display thumbnails over samba.

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Yet here you are on a research project.

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Except most people will use containers because they are easy to distribute and set up. Guess you could try hosting Immich?

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You should learn docker if you care about self hosting stuff though. You might lose 1 day learning the basics of docker, but the practicity of being able to spin up services just to test them it’s well worth it.

Personally I use Immich for photo management, but not sure it it’s packaged as an RPM, and even if it is you’ll need to setup the database yourself. Nextcloud also possibly works but again setting Nextcloud without containers is a PitA.

Someone asking for a service to self host that refuses to use docker is similar to a person who wants to run a server but refuses to learn CLI, yes it can be done, but you’re making your life hard for no purpose and everyone else will just give you the simple solution.

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Given the very specific dependencies that Immich has wrt. the Postgres plugins it needs, I’m certain that it’s not currently packaged as an RPM and I would even bet that it never will be (at least not as one of the officially supported packages put out by the developers).

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Fair enough, last time I tried docker, which was a long time ago, I had all sorts of issues with permissions and persistence. I guess it’s probably better now.

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Selfhosting may not be your thing if you don’t like learning and researching new products.

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There is. There are multiple. And to install all of them it’s easiest to use docker. You won’t find any program installable via rpm.

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The answer to your question you didn’t ask is: Immich if you want a full fledged photo library.

You download a compose.yml file and run docker compose up -d in the same directory. At first you have to install docker and manipulate the compose file but as you see, you don’t need a degree for docker.

https://github.com/meichthys/foss_photo_libraries

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Install docker: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/centos/

Then running a container is just same as installing an RPM, except you don’t have to download it first. You just docker run the container.

You can probably get regular old packages for a lot of stuff, but a lot of stuff is packaged as containers because it makes everything easier for both the maintainer and the user.

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