Alrighty,

So your system knows the exact situation and still is slowing down my bike, just at the moment I need to accelerate to avoid being overrun by that large truck heading into me.

How stupid are these folks? We’ve got rules, when people don’t follow those rules, you fine them. Case closed.

No system to prevent a bike speeding, teach people to obey the law.

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People in this thread clearly have never been to Amsterdam. We have protected bike lanes, and where there is mixed traffic, bikes have preference and are actually respected by larger vehicles.

On the other hand, there has been an increase in accidents due to electric bikes going too fast mixed with normal bikes and pedestrians.

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I’ve been in so many close calls with e-scooter riding in sidewalks in my city. But it’s always a specific kind of asshole that does that.

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In my city, that specific kind of asshole is someone with multiple DUIs, since they can still legally ride an E-bike

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Also eBikes in the Netherlands don’t have acceleators unless they’re illegally modified.

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E-bikes elsewhere have accelerators and not just pedal assist? Wouldn’t that make it an electric scooter?

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In the US it’s really common to have an accelerator.

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I give this two weeks until a hacker bricks every ebike on their network.

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Exactly this. Foolish ideas from someone behind a desk.

Nerds and hackers will win this easily.

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Nerds and hackers will also win any battle in removing top speed limitations. The issue we’re having right now is that non-techies also have easy access to 60 km/h death machines because they can just buy Chinesium fatbikes with 1kW motors and a preinstalled throttle.

If they start requiring helmets you’ll see this fad die down real quick. As it’s mostly children (or uncivilized adults) buying these to look cool and cause trouble.

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Good! Back to the situation of “I need to use the strength of my legs to accelerate”, much safer

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-Guy who has no interest in seeing cars largely replaced with bikes in cities

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ummm, what?

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to avoid being overrun by that large truck heading into me

lol, I’m guessing you’ve never ridden a bike in Amsterdam

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You got me there… :-)

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I live in Canada and seeing so many people riding around without helmets in Amsterdam felt weird until I realized how protected the cyclists are by the design of the road infrastructure. Cycling while sharing the road with a truck with no barrier in-between is common where I live so I appreciate your perspective.

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Also ebike speed is lower and closer to actual bike speeds in the EU which may play a role in head injuries.

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I was driving a rental scooter last summer and the thing just suddenly stopped in the middle of traffic. It had randomly decided that I was on a sidewalk when I absolutely was not. It was both an embarrassing and a scary situation.

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Dude, that sucks. I can picture the walk of shame. They really shouldn’t do shit like that.

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Should’ve just left it in the road and walked off lol. It’s the company’s problem now… Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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That’s literally what people are already doing and that’s why rental scooters are getting banned in many cities; they just leave them laying around where they shouldn’t and it’s a massive nuisance to everyone.

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It’s gonma destroy somebody’s car tho

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So your system knows the exact situation and still is slowing down my bike, just at the moment I need to accelerate to avoid being overrun by that large truck heading into me.

After reading the article, it seems like the system is supposed to temporarily jam pedal assist, turning your ebike into a regular bike. And the system would need to be installed in all street legal ebikes for that to happen. Since you’re still free to accelerate by pedaling like a normal bike user, that significantly reduces the amount of situations where the pedal assist would actually save you. If you can’t avoid collision by pedaling harder, you probably had no chance in the first place.

Considering most of the inner city’s roads now have a 30 km/h speed limit for cars, collision safety is probably even less of a concern now.

I do share the concern of others in the comments that such a system would probably be broken on day one, and you have a bunch of script kiddies with flipper zeros running around bricking ebikes.

The only way for that not to happen is to use proper encryption for any wireless signals being used to control this system. Considering the Dutch governmental reputation for IT failures, this is probably not going to go well.

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Precisely; for context, it was recently discussed in Dutch media how some of these e-bikes reach 60 km/h. Together with a culture of people refusing to wear bicycle helmets, there’s certainly some more nuance and middle ground.

There needs to be some kind of solution, but doing nothing is not really an option.

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And the system would need to be installed in all street legal ebikes for that to happen.

Wouldn’t street legal ebikes not go too fast by default anyway? I feel like if that’s the case, this would mostly inconvenience people with legal ebikes and have barely any effect on illegal ones that can go faster.

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Street legal bikes can be modified. This system would, in theory, make it harder to exceed speed limits on assisted pedalling, or at least easier to find those who do it and fine them.

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at least easier to find those who do it and fine them.

Missed that part, can you please clarify how?

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But pedal accelerating an ebike is not quite as easy as a regular bike. They’re over 20kg due to steel frames and batteries.

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Since you’re still free to accelerate by pedaling like a normal bike user, that significantly reduces the amount of situations where the pedal assist would actually save you.

Bro e-bikes are like 3-6x heavier than normal bikes, manual pedaling sucks and you can’t accelerate for shit

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