275 points

Seldom mentioned in the media is that he died from COVID-19.

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Does anyone know if he has any pre-existing conditions?

(This is a joke)

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44 points

He was perfectly healthy, truly had lungs of iron

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Don’t make jokes about people dying, jackass.

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34 points

some people get through trauma with various flavors of emotive tools, including sarcasm and humor.

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9 points

I’ve seen interviews with this guy. He had a surprisingly bright outlook on life. I think he would have found this funny.

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1 point

Why?

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Why? It’s not like they’re feelings are gonna hurt. Lol

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76 points

Ain’t that a bitch. One virus took his body. Another took his life.

Both are preventable through safe, effective, and widely available vaccines. Vaccinate yourselves and your children, friends.

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39 points

Currently COVID-19 is not preventable through vaccination on its own, especially not at the currently recommended once-per-year schedule, because they don’t last anywhere near that long.

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25 points

It is not preventable to get down with it, but the vaccines reduce its effects so much that even people with chronic breathing illnesses or organ transplants can handle it like a moderate flu. Mileage will vary from person to person, of course.

Your direct point stands, but it is still a huge win for pro-vaccination.

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9 points

But the vaccine reduce the risk! That’s the most important part

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7 points

Those are good but you also need to mask to prevent the spread of covid.

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4 points

The COVID vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting COVID. It just mitigates the symptoms. You can still get it and spread it.

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26 points

Worth noting that being vaccinated makes it harder to spread

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8 points

In other words, it does exactly the same as any other vaccine…

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And what do you think people die from? The symptoms, knucklehead.

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I feel like this guy alone undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative quite a bit. I know the defenders of that worldview would go “okay, but except for all the exceptions…”, but in a lot of ways it’s just a more extreme version of the stuff that puts people in normal poverty.

Also, vaccinate your damn kids, everyone.

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Send this story to every anti vaxxer and ask if this is what they want their kids to suffer this.

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I have a wall right here if I need to bang my head against something. I don’t know, maybe somebody else reading has the gift of convincing irrational people of things, but I do not.

I brought it up partly just to vent, and partly for any fence sitters that might be lurking and hadn’t made the connection.

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8 points

Have you ever tried screaming at clouds, much safer and sometimes the clouds will flip you off in return.

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I probably didn’t make it obvious, but I was talking in the general sense of “everyone should do this”. My bad…

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They’ve already decided they don’t care for the suffering of other people’s children, the step to not caring about their own isn’t a far one.

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Most people are wired to care about people that are familiar to them, instinctively, so I actually think it is a big step. Antivaxxers, as far as I can tell, genuinely believe the conspiracy theories and snake oil salesmen.

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undercuts the whole meritocracy narrative

How do you mean?

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7 points

A classic case of success against all the odds, to manage to become a lawyer at all is a challenge let alone when you live in an iron lung. It’s an argument for people saying that no matter who you are in society you can succeed and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

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Oooh, I see. Thanks.

I was missing this part:

and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

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Yup. Through no fault of his own, the dude spent his entire life lying motionless. Where’s the merit in that story?

It’s not really helpful on it’s own in a debate, because you’ll 100% get “okay, but normal people” back, and it takes way too long to unravel how there’s not actually a hard distinction between various degrees of disadvantage. You’re better off with a mini Gish gallop, since there’s no shortage of examples, and your opponent will be too embarrassed to say the African children were lazy directly.

You could also use actual hard numbers if your talking to an audience savvy enough and with enough attention span to get that. That’s a rare audience, though.

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Oooh, I see. Thanks.

I was missing this part:

and that (therefore) society isn’t racist/classiest etc.

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74 points

Mr Alexander was a far stronger man than I could ever be. 70 years in an iron lung? I would be begging for release within a year or two max.

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I’m guessing it’s a bit easier if you start as a kid. It’s just what life is like to some degree. Still, can you imagine how much FOMO you would have, literally confined to a barrel? Puberty must have been extra weird for him.

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Puberty must have been extra weird for him.

He was paralyzed from the neck down. Puberty was probably mostly a squeaky voice and inconvenient growth spurt.

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I mean, to be direct about it, desire comes from the brain. The poor dude just didn’t have a body to then be horny with. Also, genitals operate on a slightly different circuit, so they often can remain functional even if voluntary things have been knocked out.

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Agreed on it probably being easier if it’s something you’re used to and not actively in pain.

Not everyone gets a lot of FOMO, so I could imagine that might also not be much, though.

I mean, maybe you just mean frustration/sadness that he can’t do as much as other people, or to do specific things he wants to do. And I could imagine that could be just incredibly tough. Like all sorts of people with severe, debilitating conditions. But FOMO is kinda a different (more childish) thing than that.

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Yeah, maybe that’s not the right word.

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28 points

He apparently did regain the ability to breathe a little bit and would leave the iron lung for short periods of time

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Imagine if you find out that normal humans could breathe underwater, and there 100 billion people living underwater. Us 8 billion people unable to live underwater are the “iron lung kids”.

The all say “imagine not being able to ‘fly’ underwater, or not riding a gigantic squid - I would kill myself to end my misery!”

What would you respond to that? I’d be like “eh, must be nice, but I’ve lived above water all my life. It makes no difference to me.”

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IDK. I reckon the 1:8B is a bit worse

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That’s really cool, thank you for sharing. I still stand by him being a better man than me. I’m glad he could do more than what people usually attribute to being in an iron lung.

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It depends if you can fit in with a gamepad inside that puppy.

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Paralyzed from the neck down.

Not much use a controller will do him.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


The disease left him unable to breathe independently, leading doctors to place him in the metal cylinder, where he would spend the rest of his life.

“Paul Alexander, ‘The Man in the Iron Lung’, passed away yesterday,” a post on a fundraising website said.

His brother, Phillip Alexander, remembered him as a “welcoming, warm person”, with a “big smile” that instantly put people at ease.

Phillip said he admired how self-sufficient his brother was, even as he dealt with an illness that stopped him performing daily tasks such as feeding himself.

Paul’s health deteriorated in recent weeks and the brothers spent his final days together, sharing pints of ice cream.

After years, Alexander eventually learned to breathe by himself so that he was able to leave the lung for short periods of time.


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The worst part is that if you’re stuck in that situation and want to get out of it via suicide, you literally can’t. Now he’s finally free.

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He was able to leave the contraption for short periods of time. He was able to breathe on his own, but not well and would become fatigued quickly. He wasn’t as stuck as it seems.

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Didn’t he choose this? There are modern replacements for the iron lung, when he was still able enough to get out of it he could’ve switched I think.

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