Can confirm. I’m 38 and I cringe every time I see a remake of some 20 or 30 year old movie or show. Come up with something original instead of going for the low hanging fruit. Also, use less CGI and more practical effects.
Too much bad cgi now days.
Look at top gun 2. I wasn’t excited at all to see it. I left the theater pumped and saw it four more times.
True, what people want is seamless VFX.
I watched Argylle and everything looks so fake. Most of it was shot on a green screen. Half the charm of an extravagant spy movie is taking us to exotic locales.
But also a ton of practical effects. The CGI was mostly there to help the practical effects, the movie wasn’t full on CGI like Avatar.
Lots of practical effects as well. The flying was mostly practical. The used cgi to make the f18 look like a one seater but the flying was legit
A good story is a good story. Lots of CGI or no CGI doesn’t change that fact. There are lots of movies with no CGI that are just garbage.
The issue is studios trying to avoid having to write a good story trying to mask a mediocre story with lots and lots of mediocre CGI. Why? Because it’s faster to create lots of computer effects than to come up with a great story. It’s also a lot easier to create an assembly line for CGI than it is to create one for great stories
Fairly long set of 4 videos, but this is an interesting flip side of “less CGI” discussion: https://youtu.be/7ttG90raCNo
As a counterpoint to this I think the “why” of the remake is really important. Id actually like to see them do more movies that could benefit from an “update” moreso than a remake… like Major League, I loved those movies as a kid. Show me some of my favorite contemporary actors having fun with a modern script on something that I enjoyed back in the day and yeah Ill watch that.
The white men cant jump remake wasnt a GREAT movie, but its not like they were remaking an absolute classic that was perfect in every way and wanted to cash in with merch, tie-ins and video games so it didnt feel like a shameless cash grab. I had fond memories of the original and I like Jack Harlow so yeah I liked it, wouldnt rave about it but its fun.
This is my stance. I love the new Dune. It’s less of a remake instead of a different adaptation of the book(s), but regardless it isn’t original. I generally hate the reusing of IPs just for the sake of it, but it feels right for Dune right now. For the other 90% of trailers before it that were remakes, I couldn’t be bothered to care about them.
I feel like most remakes are pretty bad, if I watched the original and loved it, why would I want to watch a newer, slightly different version?
I’m a dude and I love the original Charmed and Mean Girls but didn’t even bother to watch the remakes because I knew they weren’t going to be as good as the originals.
I like watching remakes because I’ts not about if it meets up on quality or enjoyment, its the comparison between the two. Yeah usually they fall short.
Take White men cant jump for example, Ioved the original but only liked the remake took a couple of viewings to figure it out. They glossed over the basketball too much, which blurred out the movies grounding theme which I think is “We can come together over common passions” and they didnt set up a big enough conflict between Walls and Harlow. They also missed out on a chance to have some great conversations about modern racial attitudes, which was one of the things that made the first one that bit better. “You cant hear Jimmy” and the discussion about “A black man would rather look good first and win second” people in that movie had some racial opinions and they talked about them, yet nobody screamed racism.
But it was well shot, funny, entertaining, good performances, good callbacks, likeable characters. If it was a standalone it wouldnt be a better movie, but it wouldnt be worse either.
Here’s what people want… Good movies and good television. Yeah, originality is great, but remakes can be good too.
I liked the remake of Infernal Affairs (The Departed), Scarface, Cape Fear, Ocean’s 11, The Fly, King Kong (Peter Jackson), True Grit, Judge Dread, and The Wizard of Oz (1939) was also a remake. The Fall Guy looks good too.
For TV, there’s Battlestar Galactica, Westworld, Cobra Kai, Sabrina, and Wednesday, though different, could fit in there as it’s still based on another property.
What people don’t want are obvious cash grabs.
I don’t think Wednesday should count as remake. Also I want to add The Lighthouse to your list of good remakes.
Hell some of those remarks are better than the original IMO the True Grit remake is infinitely better than the original one, mind you I dont like John Wayne movies and this aint even me being political I fucken love Clint Eastwood movies.
The Battlestar Galactica reboot kicked ass where the original was legit campy and crappy. Reboots can be okay, but for one: stop rebooting a great and successful franchise, you already are up against a very high bar.
💯 the new Dune movies could be considered a reboot, but they’re light years better than the 80s movie, which was widely considered a disappointment by fans of the books and a financial failure.
I think it’s funny you use Clint Eastwood to prove you’re not politically motivated because he talked to a chair to entertain conservatives while John Wayne on the other hand was a Nazi. Like I get it, you can absolutely disagree with both it’s just funny the difference in egregiousness.
I like old Clint Eastwood movies in spite of my politics, my dislike of John Wayne movies is further amplified by my politics and the fact he was just an awful person overall. Seriously Waynes death was fucken poetry, getting cancer because he wanted to be Genghis Khan and promptly getting irradiated is fucken poetic.
But yeah both Wayne and Eastwood are/were bastards, If memory serves me right they both said some pretty egregious shit about Sacheen Littlefeather at the 45th academy awards.
Honestly sometimes we’re fine with cash grabs too, aslong as they don’t require much attention. For example John Wick is a really fun and easy series of films to watch but you don’t need to have 100% attention throughout
I have to say, I recently realized there was a fourth and I hadn’t seen the third, and I didn’t care for those two. The first on was amazing. The second was good, but started introducing too much gun-magic the third and fourth had lost all the authenticity the first one was known for. The first everyone talked about how it was somewhat realistic and people moved and behaved in a believable way. In the third and fourth everyone is just running around using their jacket to block bullets while firing blindly but perfectly accurately. It got really dumb.
Yeah, you can kinda tell that as the series went on it started to be more and more a vehicle for really dumb stunts and action sequences. I feel like occasionally we get a movie or set of movies that are just cranked out by like, a production chock full of stuntmen. That’s fine, I suppose, it’s not unenjoyable, but I do much prefer something in the vein of Heat, or the original John Wick, rather than it’s sequels.
A better comparison might even be, like, any Jackie Chan movie, since those are all just basically vehicles for stunt work, but I think a comparison between those and the John Wick sequels is kind of self-evidently not a flattering comparison, for the sequels. Jackie Chan movies tend to have better, mostly self-contained plots, they tend to have much better and more impressive action, and action choreography, even if it’s almost intentionally less flashy. Even though obviously most of the stuff in the Jackie Chan movies is unrealistic, it still feels more real, because it’s all been actually done, relative to the John Wick movies, which tend to be more full of CGI, and kind of less real as a result of them being kind of, ridiculous murderfests. They become ungrounded.
What the fuck is this article smokin? Is it AI?
…of these young kids,
Ok goddamnit, enough with the millennials r kids n shit. Im 45. Millennials are adults. Adults! Kiss my pucker, fucker
If you’re 45, aren’t you technically Gen X? My understanding is that the Millennial generation starts in the 1980s, with Gen X being between 1965 and 1980.
Generations aren’t about hard lines of division. For example, if some was born in December 1979 and another in January 1980, they would have more in common than with someone born in 1975 or 1985.
I was born six months before the millennial cutoff, but I find many of my touchstones align with millennials than with Gen X and then I have some that line up with Gen X.
Ultimately, the utility of generational analysis is degraded with pieces like this. There seems to be something useful about looking at how certain aged people relate to events, but trying to ask about “How millennials are ruining the work place for Gen X” isn’t a good use of that analysis.
I dunno, Ive read many different date start times. Usually i am a millennial, i think only ever saw myself at the end of the x cutoff once. There’s even A goofy tiny 4 year “gen” thing i got lumped into once or twice called xennial. I dunno where i belong. Good thing it’s all bullshit anyway
I’m.a 33 y/o millennial with a mortgage and shitty movies I don’t want to watch. Hopefully they’ll stop calling millennials “kids” by the time I retire.
Ok goddamnit, enough with the millennials r kids n shit. Im 45. Millennials are adults. Adults! Kiss my pucker, fucker
I think they meant in emotional terms.
:raises hand: Gen-X too please!
Are remakes ever for a new generation? Aren’t they just for the original people who liked it, and they hope a new gen will like the new content, but they never do?
Yes, because it’s well known that once a movie or series is released, it’s promptly destroyed to make sure that no trace of it subsists. Which is why remakes are inevitable.
Absolutely not. This is how we got to “my James Bond is better than your James Bond”-style of thinking.
Every new gen wants their own thing. Every new gen thinks the last gen was lame. Business takes old gen shit and add new gen actor/actress/good looking person, adds old gen shit and then resells the new gen its own version. This is why every show is full of pretty people and nothing new.
Most of the characters in Severance are not pretty, and it was very original IMO.
There’s this concept called Hollywood ugly. Even people who are not pretty or considered to play ugly characters on film are still above average in terms of looks compared to the whole of the population. Most actors in Severance while might not be considered movie star out of everyone’s league gorgeous, are still pretty and attractive people. It’s much more about how they are presented in camera that makes them seem more everyday like.
Severance is excellent and exceptional. It’s also AppleTV+, where it’s more likely than not you’ll see actors that resemble people in real life (and when it’s not, it’s Ghosted and shit). And they generally don’t do remakes.
If anything, they’re the exception and not the rule.
