My current issue is i see you guys constantly having issues, editing files etc.

Is it not stable?

Can you not set it up and then not have ongoing issues?

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This is a forum where people seek help. Of course you’re going to see problems here. Nobody posts “hey it’s been several years and I’ve had no problems.”

Of course linux is stable. It runs like 80% of servers on the Internet.

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Can confirm. I’ve been using Linux for nearly 30 years… I don’t post questions on forums. Bug reports for OSS projects, on the other hand…

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Also can confirm. Been using Arch, which most people consider requires more fiddling than other distros, for almost 10 years now and have had few issues with it. I’ve had to fix my Windows install more than my Linux.

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Hey, it’s been well over a decade, and the largest problem I have is a crippling addiction to distro hopping…

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Personally, I don’t get the appeal of distro hopping. I think it’s nice to try different concepts, but there aren’t that many.

You basically have the “classic” distributions, like Debian, Suse, Fedora and their derivatives and if you want those split up into the stable and the rolling distributions (Arch, maybe Debian Sid). Then there’s the source-based distributions, most notably Gentoo and derivatives. Declarative distributions, NixOS and GUIX system. And then maybe the newer breed of immutable distributions like Fedora Silverblue.

To me, the difference between an Arch system and Debian are kind of minimal. Yet I’d always prefer Arch. But why would I hop to OpenSUSE?

Granted, I always install from the terminal anyways and build my system to my needs, so I usually don’t get the default experience.

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Welcome to the club. Just now I’m setting up Endeavour to give it another (14th) shot.

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Big oof. May the kernel be with you.

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Only 80%?!? I assume *BSD isn’t counted in that number. I really can’t see people running windows on their servers…

And to be honest, server stability != display server stability.

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To be honest I pulled the 80% out of my ass… It was the first reasonable looking number that came up on a quick search.

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Of course linux is stable. It runs like 80% of servers on the Internet.

I assume *BSD isn’t counted in that number.

BSD isn’t Linux.

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Of course it’s stable.

Just like with Windows, the more advanced stuff you do, the more advanced problems you’ll have.

If you just wanna set and forget, avoid arch based and you’re golden.

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Well unless it’s just editing the text file. God forbid you unknowingly enter vim and don’t know how to get out without rebooting.

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There was a time when I had to do that. I was a teenager. I had no idea what I was doing. And it was many many years later that I finally learned how to quit it. That pain keeps me away to this day.

Long live nano, the warm and cuddly text editor.

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I’m imagining that same instance still stuck open for years until you found out.

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Screw nano and ed, use mirco.

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… It didn’t occur to you to google “how to exit vim”?

It’s :q! and if you were in some special mode you can spam esc a bunch of times before.

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Thing is, when people say that windows doesn’t break, they mean that it doesn’t break for normal users. I’d be surprised if those know what a command like editor is, to begin with.

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And it totally does break, it’s just that people are familiar with the ways windows breaks, and know how to work around it.

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I second this advice. Arch is a rolling-release distribution, so most of its packages are updated to the latest releases as soon as they come out, regardless of whether they’re tested to be stable with other software and hardware configurations.

I have “ubuntu server” installed on an old computer I use for hosting game servers. That thing is incredibly stable and low-maintenance.

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Exactly … If all you’re going to do is go online and maybe write a document once in a while … a simple distro like Mint or PopOS will just work without issue.

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This is odd phrasing. It sounds like you’re saying mint and pop aren’t capable of more. Same when people call them "good for newbs"n implying that more advanced users flock elsewhere.

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It’s the enthusiast mindset.

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Keep in mind that all the people who are just happily going about their day to day with it and not having issues are probably not posting. The only reason most people make posts is to complain about something or get assistance troubleshooting an issue. It also really depends on what all you want to do with it.

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The people who gave up because they couldn’t solve their issues aren’t posting either.

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I agree. I am posting about Linux when I use it, but have been back on windows for years now, and guess what - I’m not posting about Linux. This proves your point.

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One of my favorite things about Linux is this: you can try it. Get a thumb drive, get Rufus or Etcher. Download Mint, Ubuntu, something with a “Live Linux”. Boot from the thumb drive, spend an hour or two surfing, clicking around, seeing if things work. 2018, you had like an 80% chance of a flawless experience. 2024, it’s way higher! Plus, the alternatives have gotten slower, more bloated, more interested in monetizing you than serving you, so even if it feels strange, and you have to relearn some stuff, more than ever, it might be worth it.

Even if it didn’t work quite right, keep the thumb drive around. The number of times I’ve rescued an important file off of a messed up system using a thumb drive with Mint on it? You’d be surprised.

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Just want to mention Ventoy here. Able to boot from one thumb drive into a selection of distros? Yes please.

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I also use Ventoy. Someone says it has problems, I never found them

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Some older PCs are cranky and won’t boot it. Some newer PCs refused as well, to ‘protect’ me from a shim.

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Agreed! That’s a couple steps after you convert into a full-blown LiNerd, but I have a Ventoy nestled next to my portable Mint. I landed on Ventoy after I snagged an IODD-2541 and decided that someone had to have implemented the concept in software.

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This is awesome advice, ill give this a go first thank youvery much

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the dark secret of linux is that there are just as many people who dont understand how to solve problems and resort to searching the correct way to shake a dead chicken as with every other platform.

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