You can’t even speak frankly here. I came to Lemmy because I was tired of being censored by Reddit, but it seems like this place is just as restrictive on speech as Reddit was.

People, if we are going to talk about systemic change for a better world, violence has to be a tool in the toolbox.

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Locking this for similar reasons as I did another recent post, except this one is explicitly encouraging violent action. Further, MasterBlaster420, you seem unable to have this discussion without resorting to insulting people left and right.

See the following:


With this in mind, it would probably be wiser to permanently ban you from this community, but instead I’m giving a temporary ban. I’d encourage you to reflect on how you approach discussing this subject. Rather than suggesting general violence for enacting change, read further on the histories relating to the subject and really engage with them.

Recognize why there’s an aversion to violence, who takes advantage of it to subvert its aims, and whether it may be better to help and organize those that align with you, than repel them into the arms of those you oppose.

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Talk about violence on a social media platform is a legal liability. Who should take that risk on? Corporations? Random private citizens who happen to run an instance of lemmy?

If you want to talk about violence so badly, you will have to either find a platform that will take that risk on, or take the risk onto yourself.

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People advocating these things are never willing to put their money where their mouth is and create their own instance. Anyone can create their own instance, it just never seems to be them.

Meanwhile this person seems to be perfectly content with feds bashing down my door because of stuff they say, just not their door.

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This feels like a dare to me. I don’t create my own instances because i don’t want to spend all my time tinkering with some BS on the internet, but it looks like I need to put my money where my mouth is. I’ll be right back.

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Not daring. Just saying Lemmy can absolutely accommodate you, but we’re individuals, we are held personally liable for what is posted. If you want to post that sort of content you can, the beauty of the fediverse is that you or your group can easily spin up your own instance and say whatever you like. But then you are also personally responsible for that.

I used to be very open to privacy on mine until someone sent waves of spambots at it and then I had to lock it down. I wanted to allow people from tor and vpns but then I quickly realized I would be the one in trouble if anything was said. I just can’t have that amount of risk, I just wanted to host a small community.

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https://github.com/ubergeek77/Lemmy-Easy-Deploy

It’s dead simple to setup, and once it’s up you ever hardly need to touch it.

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If everywhere you go is shit, maybe you’ve stepped on it

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maybe. or maybe there’s shit everywhere.

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m’anal fleshlight

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People please remember to not feed the trolls

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i’m being completely sincere and honest.

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If you consistently run into the problem that nobody wants to hear what you’re saying, maybe it’s time to stop saying it.

I’m not saying EVERY case, but, maybe consider it.

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why would i change my fundamental understanding of rational morality based on popular opinion? i believe that there are more limp-wristed pacifists out there than there are warriors with a conscience, but that just means i need to amplify myself even more so people understand what’s at stake.

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Your very use of the word limpwristed points the way to why you’re not being taken seriously. If you want to build and promote a violent a movement you need to be the change you wish to see in this world. Start a Matrix server, install Signal, develop a comms SOP and get out to protest and speak with like minded individuals. Arm yourselves, learn tactics and discuss plans in private. Join the SRA https://socialistra.org/

There’s plenty of info on how to do this all over the onion network.

But you sound more like an agent provocateur. There’s a long history of people like you that discredit leftist and anarchist movements. We don’t want you in public spaces shouting violent rhetoric and making us even more of a target for state violence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

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hey man, i appreciate your sincere reply and i’ll definitely check out the links. I’m just a little wary of calling myself a socialist - not because i’m not a socialist (i definitely am), but just because it pigeon-holes my goals a little bit, while also alienating a lot of people who may not think of it that way. i just see a myriad of problems in which the only solution is to get rid of the conservatives blocking progress.

also, there really are a bunch of limp-wristed pacifists out there and i don’t see why they shouldn’t be labeled as such. light a fire under their pansy asses.

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You are free to vent your opinion but other people are free to not agree. Or listen. Or care. What you going to do? Enact violence on everybody?

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Or, you can just keep thinking that you’re the ONLY one who has ever figured out the solution. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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see? that’s what i’m talking about! i know i’m not alone in thinking “man, all this shit would be a lot easier if there were a lot less conservatives in the world”. but where the fuck do we go to talk about that?

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