37 points

And laws only matter if they’re enforced. Let’s hope they do.

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36 points

Laws? Enforced? Against rich people? Against politicians? So naive this one…

I do hope I’m proven wrong…

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5 points

I do hope you are

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2 points

It’s too late. Now they’re going to say they can’t prosecute during an election or it’ll unfairly affect the outcome, and then when he wins he gains immunity. They’ve had 4 years to get even a single conviction out of 91 charges, and they haven’t even started a single trial. They’re afraid of setting precedent of prosecuting politicians because they don’t want to give up their own self-appointed immunity, so they let the SCOTUS decide, and SCOTUS is a partisan hack-job right now (and probably for the rest of our lives).

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0 points

Goodbye tattered democracy, hello blooming dictatorship

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-3 points

Its a dog and pony show

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34 points

Can’t Americans do something to change the way elections happen? I still think 81 is too old to run as a politician let alone a president. People say America is one of the greatest democracies but I’m really not seeing it.

Also no offence guys, I’m not into politics. Just a layman question.

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29 points

The TL;DR of it is that the people with the power to change that are the same people who benefit from it the most and therefore whose best interests are to prevent it from changing.

And America is the greatest democracy in the same way that corporations find that they did nothing wrong upon investigating themselves.

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9 points

Technically yes, but no, not really.

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7 points

America is one of the greatest democracies but I’m really not seeing it.

We’re not a great democracy at all. We’re a world power. Big difference. World Powers have this weird history of being shit governments. Ask Russia and China sometime

Or, as Republicans would remind you, we’ve never been a Democracy at all, but a Republic.

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6 points

In a technical sense, yes. In a practical sense, no.

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6 points

We aren’t the greatest democracy. The only choice we have is some state ballots and representatives from a 2 party system. It takes decades to get things passed that 70% of Americans want. The largest predictor of something getting passed is if rich donors want it.

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People say America is one of the greatest democracies but I’m really not seeing it.

As an American, I can tell you it’s a shitty democracy. Politicians are openly bribed in the form of “lobbying” by corporate interests and the rich. Its a two party system thanks to having FPTP voting everywhere.

Any given legislation has a 30% chance of getting approved regardless of public support, unless said legislation is supported by the rich, then it’s far closer to 100% chance.

America is is on the fence post with outright fascism on one side, and milquetoast flawed democracy on the other.

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The louder and more often a politician proclaims some great quality, the less true it is.

America, with it’s voting system designed by landowners to mathematically create a power duopoly, is at best straddling the boundary between Democracy and Dictatorship, which is why you end up with situations like this, were all there is two anti-choices (“vote me ´cause I ain’t him”), somewhat better than what’s going on in Russia but far from good enough.

All that harping about Greatest Democracy In The World TM is pure compensation.

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4 points

They thought, “We don’t want tyranny if the majority!”

But then we ended up with tyranny of the minority, and that’s worse!

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3 points

Maybe, but it’s hard. It would take a Constitutional amendment.

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1 point

A Constitutional amendment is even harder!

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2 points

Can’t Americans do something to change the way elections happen?

Yes but they are too brainwashed into thinking they must vote either red or blue to save the country

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11 points

It’s the disproportionate electoral system. A serious third candidate would “spoil” the vote of one party, and then you just hand the win to the other side.

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No, it isn’t. That’s the brainwashing part. Americans believe it so they keep voting for people they don’t like, keeping the status quo. Everyone you talk to is like “I’d vote third party, but the System”. If all the people that want to, voted third party, neither of them would stand a chance. But defeatism got into US citizens almost as much as people in Russia.

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-6 points

A third party would spoil corrupted red and blue ambitions because as soon as they see a drop in their votes they go in panic mode and they have to change their policies to actually appeal people.

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2 points

Our democracy is a great democracy the way an antique car is a great car: great in its time, but it’s time for an upgrade.

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32 points

I really don’t understand the age argument. One is 81 and the other 77. Like am to to european to understand the logic of freedomlanders in criticizing Biden for his age??

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16 points

Yeah, you are. You can criticize a Democrat for anything. Republicans are above reproach.

Obama was criticized on national news for wearing a tan suit. Trump bragged about being able to kill someone on the streets of New York and not lose a vote - to zero criticism. The man has horny audio about being able to walk through the dressing rooms of minors at a competition he ran and anyone who criticizes him for that is seen as too “partisan”.

So yeah. It’s not about 4 years difference. Trump could be 90, and his side would still criticize Biden for being too old while running Trump for president.

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24 points

Having 91 criminal charges ahead of you don’t matter if you become president and pardon yourself.

Don’t forget to vote, please. Saying this as a non US citizen who is just tired of US shenanigans. please don’t let Trump become president again

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10 points

He can’t pardon himself from the State charges. He can however create a Constitutional Crisis for 4 years where nobody is quite sure if they can prosecute or jail him or not.

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1 point

I can reiterate that here from australia.

All this extremist bigoted pro-gun anti-education right wing bs is spreading to countries like Australia too. He has made idiots proud to be idiots, and encouraged them to be anti-science

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They don’t mean anything if he loses either. I don’t think Democrates will let Trump not be a Republican nominee, it would be harder for them to win elections if they have someone more sane as competition. This is why Hilary’s campaign supported Trump and why Trump is there in the first place, so they can win more easily.

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22 points

I like Biden and the Democrats because government is boring with them. Like, he’s not gonna threaten to nuke a hurricane, or draw on a damn map with a sharpie.

I’ve experienced enough to know that boring government is the best we can hope for. And, honestly, it’s what I’d really like at this point.

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-1 points

We shouldn’t feel so easily defeated. We can make things better, being passive is what makes it easier for those in power to make it worse. We can make things a lot better, we don’t need to be ok with genocide so that some idiot that Democrates funded to be Republican candidate doesn’t win. I just kinda feel like their plan to make us submissive actually worked.

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