Well, it’s Lenovo… whadayou expect?

Interesting take. I actually think the PC handheld market is being opened up by the Steam Deck. I think companies are seeing its admittedly early success and want a piece of the pie. Time will tell how big the market grows.

market is small and already crowded

Fair.

the mark of an imbecile

Either there’s a language barrier, or this went off the rails pretty quickly. 😅

Calling them imbeciles is quite a stretch, but I agree that this is a crowded market that is likely to remain pretty niche. I predict some vendors will end up pulling out within a couple of years.

Why buy a console when you can play the same games but at worse graphics for 45 minutes on a windows PC handheld?

I actually had a clamshell GPDWin2 that I used to play out of park baseball on in bed and it was perfect for that but I can’t image wanting it for real games. Inhome streaming is not worse than that unless you’ve cheaped out on your Wi-Fi and don’t wire in your main Pc/console.

The notion that “Steam Deck through Proton is the future” just showcases that you wouldn’t be in a position to judge how to configure such a device in the planning phases of a multi-million company project.

It’s a nice enthusiast attitude, sure. And don’t get me wrong, us enthusiasts are important. But it’s also entirely delusional to think that you can have true mass-market appeal of these handhelds without them running Windows on them.

I have an Aya Neo, and honestly running Windows on it (after doing a reinstall without all the bloat), is pretty enjoyable. I get to run all my PC games no problem, emulators, and use it as a portable computer for other things (managing flipper zero files, that sort of thing)

Steam Deck os is pretty nifty too though, that’s for sure.

@null @echoplex21 for me personally I got the ROG Ally because of GamePass which I already had with my Xbox. Being able to play a bunch of PC games native has been great especially if they sync saves. Also the sheer amount of free games I got with Epic Game Store was also nice. Sure the UI isn’t the best (we really need a big picture mode for the Xbox app) but being able to play all these games without additional purchases was a no brainer.

#xbox #windows #gaming

The Steam experience is actually pretty great on the Ally. They have the big picture mode which works really great.

Completely different topic, but if you put a hashtag on a Lemmy post or comment does it appear on Mastodon?

Gonna test it out, #testingthefuckoutofthis

Can you play Gamepass games without Windows?

Allegedly MSFT took notice and is working on it…. But there are some good 3P apps that make it usable to launch games. Installing them is still a chore without a Bluetooth keyboard.

It can’t be done cause Steam hasn’t released it yet unfortunately

My main concern with companies like Lenovo or Asus building such devices on Windows is support. I have more trust in Valve to do this right.

I understand where you’re coming from, but I have a different perspective.

It’s not much bigger than a Switch with a grip. I used it on my last flight to play Vampire Survivors and didn’t have any space issues.

I use my Deck and Switch in bed. I use them on the couch when someone else is watching TV. I use them on the toilet. I use them while at the gym. I use them in my car while I’m waiting for an appointment or something.

Basically, I sit in front of a computer all day for work. I don’t want to sit in front of a computer all night to game.

Yeah, they aren’t as portable as a Gameboy, but they’re good enough.

I work from home and after the shift to remote work it didn’t take long for me to pretty much stop using my gaming pc because at the end of a work day I kinda want to be out of my computer room.

Most of the time I’m using it on the couch or lounging around the house. I have brought it on planes (flown like 14 times so far this year) and it’s not that bad but I guess that may vary from person to person.

It’s not for everyone but it fits my needs pretty perfectly.

I put docks everywhere, in several rooms in my house, at my friends’ houses, at my parents’. It’s a lifesaver when I need to access work or do some programming, and I can play games when traveling as well, great for plane trips.

I use it on my hour long train commute every morning and evening as well as in bed when I don’t want to sit at my desk.

The size is actually a huge plus for me. It fits my enormous hands so much better than the Switch which has been really uncomfortable since I started playing ToTK last week.

It’s been major for me with RVing. I guess I could have used a gaming laptop but given the limited “table” space in an RV the handheld formfactor is a major advantage. That plus the minimal power requirements - I don’t need to factor it in to our off-grid time at all, while a 200W gaming laptop would definitely be noticable.

I also just prefer it for home. Sitting on the couch, in bed, whatever. I find it comfortable to play on.