The museum created by the American Bible Society in July 2021 said it would be open to visitors until March 28. The Christian ministry nonprofit that translates Bibles and sends them around the world has recently been besieged with challenges including layoffs, funding troubles, and five CEO changes within two years.

56 points

While I wouldn’t have wanted to support the place,

a collection of historic Bibles, including William Penn’s own

would have actually been interesting to see. For all the harm done in the name of Christianity, there is also a lot of amazing artwork and historic significance tied up with it. It’s just better done in an actual museum and not a religious nutjob propaganda space.

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I’m a deist but even I get weirded out by how selective ppl are with the evils of religion on lemmy. Before there were universities institutions of learning were funded by churches of practically all the major religions. A museum based on famous religious academics, artists, musicians, and writers would be very interesting and would hold major historical significance.

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Stop being a deist. You are already an atheist who just needs to rip the band-aid off already.

were funded by churches of practically all the major religions.

And? If I did something nice 800 years ago do I get off the hook for every bad thing I have ever done forever? Good doesn’t wash away bad. A doctor isn’t allowed to just over people in the hospital parking lot to make it balanced.

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That’s not really what they were talking about though. Museums are interesting. That’s why they exist. This particular museum was not at all an accurate representation, so I agree it shouldn’t exist. That doesn’t mean we should ignore the historical value of some of the things they did have.

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You don’t get why people would get worked up about the evils of religion…?

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Literal didn’t say that but ok

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I suspect when I hear people defend religion who aren’t religious themselves that most of them have had a life that religion couldn’t/wouldn’t hurt them.

Don’t have the equipment to get pregnant, live in some secular western country where religion is weak, wasn’t raped as a kid by a man of the cloth, parents were boring and thought religion was go to some place for an hour once a year.

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Does religion having a monopolization on learning (in Europe) make up for all of the murder, torture, oppression, etc.?

Maybe if we didn’t have all the learning but none of the queer people or the “witches” or the Jews or the Muslims or anyone else that Christians ended up massacring never got tortured and murdered, the world would be a better place.

Things can be relearned. People can’t relive their lives.

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I wrestle with this one because let’s not pretend life was peaceful before religion - religion gave the structure that grew into us understanding those things are wrong. It’s now obsolete but for s time I think it was a net positive

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A lot of people don’t get is that the churches didn’t want knowledge for knowledge’s sake. It was about power. Copy their unholy book, spread it to the masses, teach it to them and hold them as a weapon against the rulers of the countries they were in.
They had the wealth and the manpower from all the gullible fools they conned.

Sure, specific intellectuals did pursue advancement in science and technology under the wing of religion, but it was often that or be silenced.
Same as with the witch trials. It wasn’t the Church that did that and even advised against it, it was their rabid followers who misunderstood the texts.
Remind you of any current group in particular?

I feel pity for the Renaissance. All that hubbub about enlightenment and yet we’re still stuck in the ages before it.

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Sure, specific intellectuals did pursue advancement in science and technology under the wing of religion, but it was often that or be silenced.

Like Copernicus, Galileo, Descartes? Silenced/censured by the church, often with threats. Or Bruno, burned alive…

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This jerk kisses the ass of hate religious groups because they forced artists to paint pictures only of their bullshit religion for a thousand years. Screw this jerk, and screw that religion.

“But the crucifix has such pretty blood running down the side of the dead guy impaled onto it! So pretty!”. What a nutjob.

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We already have a Holocaust museum, which means we already have a museum dedicated to Christianity, just stick that old Bible in there.

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Right? I was telling my wife the other day that I want to see a gallery of all the Jesus pictures that get donated to a Goodwill when a grandma dies.

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They shouldn’t allow hate museums about hate books that teach people it’s OK to hate, because of religion.

What a waste of time, effort, and money. That’s what religion is. Just a waste.

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But what about the Holocaust Museum? And that Hitler book? Should we ban them too?

Edit: 14 year old Lemmings with a single brain cell- “No, we should only ban the evil things! The solution is so obvious, and has not been discussed before in history.”

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What about ambulances and Mount Rushmore?!

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I think we should ban solid ground.

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The problem isn’t that someone can start a museum about something stupid. It’s a private endeavor and they can do what they want. The problem is that, as a religious organization, we’re essentially helping fund them through tax exemption.

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None of the people who ran it wanted to live there.

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Philly is a lot of things, but it isn’t in the rust belt lol

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They think the Bible hasn’t already been translated into every language?

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It’s definitely been translated into the most used languages, but there are a bunch more that are being worked on still.

Here’s an infographic on it from another org: https://www.wycliffe.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/2023_Infographic-Large_EN.pdf

Looks like the way they calculate it, 80% of people in the world have access to a full translation of the Bible in their language.

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There’s also new original translations being done every year or two anyway. To say nothing of the dozens of smaller translation projects like Schlafly’s Conservative Bible.

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6 points

Supply Side Jesus used to be a joke

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It’s also hard to know how many languages in that chart are only spoken by multilingual people, in which case, a Bible in their language is not really necessary.

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How much are they changing the translation to appeal more broadly to the recipients?

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Hahahahahahahahahah

And another one

And another one

And another one bites the dust

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Meh, they’re tax exempt and still own the land, so investment wise it was likely not a bad move.

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