@asklemmy What do you think it would take for people to drop Twitter & Reddit and move to the Fediverse?

97 points

Everybody else doing it.

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26 points

The network effect is really strong. Once you try getting people to move or try something new you really realise how strong it is.

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11 points

And how do we get everyone else to do it?

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34 points

Honestly, most people are followers. If you have a few high profile celebrities publicly announce they are switching over, Iโ€™m sure their fan base will do the same. Once the fans go over, then the friends of fans follow and so on.

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13 points

They also have to abandon their presence on twitter as well.

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2 points

Yeah, thatโ€™s probably the best way that people would move across. Knowing people are moving across to Threads, It could be a good way (once they join the Fediverse) for people to get involved with it and maybe move across to things like Mastodon and Lemmy.

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Be careful what you wish for. Itโ€™s very good for us that those people stay where they areโ€ฆ Otherwise this place would be Twitter.

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3 points

A lot of those people would need to go to there own instances that we would be able to block due to policies on most mastodon instances aligning with Trans Rights as well as other LGBT+ people being safe.

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4 points

Make it active so that when they look, they see content

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3 points

Iโ€™ll try to do just that then. Stay active and make this place full of content for people to enjoy.

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0 points

Why on Earth would we want to do that?

The last thing in the world the fediverse needs is a bunch of idiots blundering around in it.

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19 points

As an idiot currently blundering around in it, I donโ€™t think this is something we can gatekeep, nor can we try and do it. Itโ€™s just something that will happen

The great thing about the fediverse is that people have control over which instances they are around, and there will always be some more isolated ones if thatโ€™s what you prefer

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4 points

As your local blundering idiot, I disagree.

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3 points

To have actual content on here. I hate having to switch between the Fediverse and normal Social Media to get updates on the niche things I enjoy.

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44 points

More content. More diverse content. And more diverse users.

There really isnโ€™t a lot of posts. A significant portion of posts are from bots. Similarly, there arenโ€™t many comments.

It feels like most content is doomer news, politics, Linux, Star Trek, programming, or gaming related. And thatโ€™s my jam. But it gets old after a while.

And of course it would help to have more diverse users. I know we arenโ€™t all the same, but Lemmy has a lot of software developers and left leaning folks with post secondary degrees.

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Yeah, I get what you mean. It would be good to get more niche communities involved. Itโ€™s good to see like-minded people, but itโ€™s always good for someone to have another opinion that can back up their views with facts.

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21 points

People are โ€œlazyโ€ and only social, today. They want to log in, info dump, and not think.

Before the nadir of social media, when reddit and twitter were coming up, the people online were predominantly young millennials and new tech was exciting. That was a time where netizens were more curious and accepting of online platform learning challenges. In fact, if it was beta or even just more hands on and generally nerdy, that often made the platform more appealing. Then everything became standardized. Mega social media squashed innovative smaller fun projects. Competition got absorbed. And with the mass standardization of the internet came the younger generations who came up just expecting shit to work as theyโ€™ve always seen. Streamlined and with an inclusion of 15 minutes of fame. But, in honesty the biggest snooze is the lack of innovation that drove the old internet drives todayโ€™s general malaise.

Times are different. People are bored with internet tech and are therefore less curious. My younget gen z and y co-workers glaze over if I even so much as mention irc or playing around with your own web server. Gen y understands but doesnโ€™t care because Twitter and IG governed their highschool experience. Gen z doesnโ€™t understand and are kinda boomer-esque in terms of any software comprehension. Iโ€™ve had to teach my interns what Excel even is.

Times are different. Everything has being standardized, monontonized, monitized, predictable, and generally boring. I think the fediverse would have to become mainstream to appeal to the mainstream. And todayโ€™s mainstream arenโ€™t interested in new platform learning curves unless thereโ€™s something fun, compelling, and of entertainment value to them.

Just my old millennial lady take.

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Iโ€™m gen z :[ ouch. To be fair though yeah, not that many gen z actually have digital literacy. I need to help my friends the same age as me with things boomers would also ask me for help with. Itโ€™s kind of sad having a very surface-level consumer relationship with the wonderful world of the internet and tech

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Yeaโ€ฆ and I realize how harsh it sounds but like, I put โ€œlazyโ€ in quotes because I donโ€™t think itโ€™s really laziness. Maybe more boredom? The environmentsโ€™ just been designed to not invite exploration. Everything is just automatic and instant now. Innovation is driven by need. The need has been engineered away, for the most part.

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3 points

Irc is probably a nice way to see how chatting was back in the 90s im a gen z and i think its quite fun to just load up a irc client then log on to random irc servers to have some fun

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Gen z here, there are still nerds in our generation

Think part of what youโ€™re seeing might be that previously when it was all new and niche the only people using these sites were nerds, nowadays everyoneโ€™s using it so by comparison it looks like there are less of us around

I hear Lemmy is very reminiscent of the old internet because it aggregates all the techies together like the internet in general used to

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Iโ€™m in that demographic (born in the 90s), and my friends are definitely apathetic/uninterested in trying new platforms. I am trying to convince them of alternatives ๐Ÿซก, wish me luck.

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17 points

A faux front end that makes the fediverse appear centralised.

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So Threads? Thatโ€™s getting progress on coming to the Fediverse. Guess we would have lots more people join through that.

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Iโ€™m not sure what threads is really. Iโ€™m not on Instagram. Gotta make it as simple as possible.

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Threads is instagrams version of mastodon / twitter. Even know you can login with instagram it does bring it mainstream

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15 points

More active niche communities and better search for old posts

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3 points

I would love for more activity for niche communities

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