If it’s Ukraine and it probably is, I hope Russia doesn’t hold back in the upcoming days, NOT ONE A BIT…
I also hope it helps destroy America’s favorite little ethnofascist state in the ME. But no hope there, Putin is actually very timid compared to his image in the west.
actually very timid
While I despise the Nazis in Ukraine, and I don’t want to flatter Putin, I’m personally hoping his unwillingness to fight wars like the US does at the very least comes from some place of being rational and not criminally insane. Wars shouldn’t play out like the Iraq war.
What lesson would that send to the west then other than to up the terror campaign and violence? Why does the west always get to up the ante and escalate? Why should other people always be the sane ones whereas the west always gets to do whatever it likes with the threat of greater violence looming over people’s heads? I don’t want Ukrainians to suffer, but at least just give Syria/ Lebanon some s300s, or send an aid convoy to Gaza to call Israel’s bluff. There should be consequences to mass murdering people.
Notably, US embassy made a statement that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts, and US citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours a couple of weeks ago.
https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-avoid-large-gatherings-over-the-next-48-hours/
I doubt any plan got delayed by 2 weeks if it was meant to happen immediately. There are a lot of angles here.
I think that it’s almost certain that US is behind this given that Vicky the witch was just promising nasty surprises. These are the surprises.
Why? US has delayed plans by months before. Who knows what operational reasons they might have had.
Also something of this scale the US probably didn’t want to directly tip its hand. So it warned people weeks in advance, specified a false timeline knowing most Americans likely to heed it anyways would probably avoid such gatherings for even longer than that.
Also could have been Ukrainian SBU, the certain parts of the US learned of it or were informed, issued that alert and maybe knowing their chances were worse with that alert out they rescheduled and tried to keep it from the Americans next time.
Edit: Now it’s being claimed it’s IS(IS) who is claiming responsibility. IS is an arm’s length plausibly deniable CIA proxy. They knew what they were going to do, but they may not have known when or had control of when as is the case with proxies (they may have even known when but tipping their hand caused a change in plans and had it pushed back). Needless to say even if one doesn’t accept IS as a CIA proxy, the US is ultimately responsible for the creation of the group and its power via their campaign against Assad. Thus the US is responsible once again for the deaths of many Russian civilians.
I would not be surprised if they try again with more, the US would love to turn Russia’s attention to Syria, to split it’s military operations between that and Ukraine to give Ukraine more time.
It is not ISIS, Ukraine is attempting to shift attention https://t.me/rybar/58423
Yeah well, “extremists” of what variety? Western media calls RDK “patriots who love their country and hate Putin”.
Then why kill the people they love so much? This is obviously russophobic driven terrorism, the cowards are shooting indiscriminately at innocent people, you need to see them as animals to be able to do it that easily. Definitely organized by NATO/US.
I was pointing out the usage of language and its intersubjectivity to create narratives, I wasn’t insinuating it was RDK or Russian Neo-Nazis specifically.
In this context the usage of extremist is null if I’ve seen Western news articles call actual extremists patriots and omit their extremist ideology.
At what point, does world war become preferable? In Gaza I would argue that point has been reached long ago; now for Russia, here is yet another provocation. Meanwhile US troops are violating Chinese sovereignty, across rogue Taipei and even Kinmen island.
Eventually, I’m almost certain it will come- frankly, it may likely be preferable even when and as it comes, if not now already, for all the human cost (that I can and do recognize). The neocons and the western establishment writ large are every bit as deranged as the historical Nazis, if not more so- and their bloodthirst has shown itself over the decades (if one isn’t simply counting centuries) to be every bit its equal as well. It must end.
You are absolutely correct, but I think the war is already happening, just that the other side hasn’t fully taken off the gloves in the same sense that they called it a cold war yet millions of people died. Imagine telling Yemenis, Iraqis, or Palestinians, etc that there is no war. They are coming for everyone, they would turn Iran, China, Russia, etc into Gaza if they could. They are probably planning ways to do that constantly.
The antiwar narrative at this point means to protect the earth/ species we have to surrender it to white supremacy/ western domination. Essentially that’s the choice the west is giving the world. May be time to call their bluff and tell them you go down also.
Agreed, in many ways the war is already here. And this time, unlike the “cold” war, humanity must win. And soon if not now already, it’s time to call their bluff- this time with the whole world on one side, and the western elites on the other.
If there’s to be an antiwar narrative, it must be on the west’s side- they are and have always been the aggressors; they are the one committing genocide in Gaza, instigating it in eastern Ukraine, trying to plunge the world on multiple fronts into war, backing terrorists, separatists, tribalists, and fascists wherever they exist. There is not an inch to be given on the global south’s side. If the west cannot learn to mind their business, perhaps our species is better off seeing how accurate the theories of nuclear winter and other such catastrophe really is.
Well, I’d rather not die in an artillery bombardment if it’s all the same to you.
World war is never preferable. The human losses in these conflicts are minuscule compared to an all out world war with the current weaponry, a world war in this era will be the most bloody event hitherto.
I disagree; world war is preferable to turning the other cheek (overly much, anyways), and this will increasingly become the case when and as things become more dire, and the west more deranged.
World war was preferable to accepting Japanese or Nazi suzerainty for the Soviets and China; it is certainly preferable for over 1 million Gazans starving to death as we speak- and now, with the west escalating yet again, no doubt it is becoming closer and closer to a reality in Russia, and in due time when and as they turn their attention east, China. The nuclear deterrent only works for so long as both sides are willing to use it- and I think, as socialists, but also simply as humans, we must never abandon the option entirely, not so long as it exists for the other side.
I agree with China and Russia’s present approach of cautious engagement- time is on their side, on humanity’s side. But when and as things ramp up- and it seems increasingly likely that they will, and it will almost certainly be western aggression as always that causes it to- eventually, there will come a point it crosses a line, where an equal or greater strike will be preferable, where outright war- even world war- will be preferable. And IMO it would be an abandonment of everything- every value, hope, and dream of the people, and the very essence of self-preservation and dignity, etc- to not strike with full and equal force should things come to that point.
Maybe for Gaza, but most other places are doing alot better than Gaza. The biosphere of this planet is quite delicate and a nuclear war might destroy all parts of the biosphere that support human life. A worse outcome than a genocide of one people.
A worse outcome than a genocide of one people.
You can understand, perhaps, how some people- or likely many, if we’re talking those suffering the conditions of Gaza right now- would disagree, and act accordingly, though.
Personally I would also disagree- Gaza, and Palestine at large, survives for now, but should the total eradication of Gazans, akin to what was done across the eastern seaboard of the US, near its endgoal, I fully and utterly hope that war, to whatever extent necessary (world war included) begins to end the genocide, even if it risks the species and biosphere altogether.
I would rather humanity dies on its feet, than on its knees. To me, while I can accept, understand, and support biding one’s time (when and if it is beneficial- as it is for now, for China and perhaps for Russia alike), ultimately, in the whole picture, I think there is nothing more abhorrent, more inhumane, than turning the other cheek permanently and unilaterally- as even famous pacifists like Gandhi spoke against (the “emasculation of a whole race,” or in this case, the whole of humanity, the global south, and the working classes). And the imperialists in particular are undeniably the enemies of humanity, a very real and well-recognized threat to the biosphere in their own right. If it is not put down, sooner or later capitalism, imperialism in particular, will likely kill us all the same.
Any rash actions by Palestinians is understandable. They are people without power acting out of desperation to have some sense of agency in their lives. Killing people that kill your family indiscriminately for entertainment is perfectly reasonable. I suspect the most effective means to destroy the Imperial core is to utilize its internal contradictions to undermine its stability and build institutions that serve the people better than the garbage current institutions. They have prepared for war, but the treats to the imperial core people proletarians are stopping. They need to feed the imperial core Bourgeoisie. That is where I think the Leftists must focus their attention in the imperial core. China is making deals and cutting off the imperialist superprofits. While the imperial core armies are very expensive they are overpriced for what they are paid for. They can’t win the wars to enforce the superprofits. As long as China can keep their Bourgeoisie in check, the collective of humanity has the opportunity to build communism.
Is the West prepared for what’s to come when Putin finally hardens his heart?
I think this is exactly the plan. Biden needs Europe to be at war to trigger a mass exodus of (mostly) white Europeans fleeing war and poverty to America to make the dream of the Fourth Reich possible. The purging of Chinese students, academics and immigrants cannot possibly be done without them being replaced by another group of immigrants at the same time.
I mean no offense to the people who think that Trump is someone who can turn America into a full-blown white supremacist state, but they’re dead wrong. Without the ruthlessness of Biden, Trump could never get it off the ground in a million years.
Without the ruthlessness of Biden, Trump could never get it off the ground in a million years.
This. If Republicans tried to do it the opposition from the population would be too much. It takes a Democrat administration to get the masses to consent to fascism. Democrats are experts at demobilizing popular resistance movements.
From what we’ve seen so far, Russia doesn’t really respond to provocations. I expect they may do some high level assassinations in Ukraine to make a point, but otherwise I predict that they’re just going to keep methodically grinding down Ukrainian army until it collapses. I do think that any chance of negotiations with the current regime are gone now though.
Definitely USA backed terrorists, they “warned” muricans about staying in public places in Moscow in the beginning of the month
