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Ukrainian/USA backed terrorists I guarantee.

RT reports at least 40 killed and a hundred injured. Numbers probably going to go up.

And the thing is, this is even more pointless than your average terrorist attack, this is pure blood-lust and desire to butcher Russian civilians KNOWING it won’t change anything because Russia has suffered deadlier attacks including on children in the past 25 years and they didn’t deter it in Chechnya or any other regions. So even the usual justification for butchering civilians that it will shock the government or people into change is a known factor, a false one with this specific country.

This is just the start. The US is not happy about the results of Ukraine and intends to severely punish the Russian people for choosing Putin again and for withstanding their sanctions.

I also guarantee that the US and west will try their hardest to spin this as a bunch of disgruntled Russians upset about Putin’s authoritarian rule and that their weapons, training, idea just poofed out of thin air. Else it could be IS type extremists who are of course a western puppet and would only be in Russia at CIA insistence. They can’t allow wholesome bean Ukraine to be associated with this type of behavior despite it being exactly the SBU’s modus operandi. Doesn’t matter whether the attackers were native Russians or what, guarantee if they aren’t IS that they were trained, radicalized, motivated, probably armed by SBU which is a proxy subsidiary of the CIA.

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50 points

Liberals already in agreement this is a false flag by Russia to checks notes justify invading ukraine.

Once again, indistinguishable from Alex Jones as far as political analysis but still somehow unbelievably smug.

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21 points

When your understanding of geopolitics is “Putin is a saturday morning cartoon villain and Ukraine are the heroes” you kind of have to make the most logical leaps to justify something like this. They aren’t capable of nuance.

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14 points

It’s impossible to get it through their thick heads that Putin doesn’t need a false flag to get support. There is no reason for him to do this.

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36 points

Already seeing libs call this a false flag attack. So that stage has been set already if proof comes out that Ukraine was responsible

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33 points

They also called the bombing in Iran a false flag attack

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The US is not happy about the results of Ukraine and intends to severely punish the Russian people for choosing Putin again and for withstanding their sanctions.

Honestly, I can’t help but look forward to when the tables turn, and the world inevitably gets in at least some punishment on the west in turn. It can’t and won’t be an eye for an eye - because frankly, alongside how wrong that would be, there is simply not enough of the west to do so- there would be nothing left of the west in such a scenario, and even then their debts would not be resolved- but it will be in, if nothing else, distrust and distancing as other options develop, and in all the social backlash that centuries of westerners plaguing the rest of humanity with genocides, slavery, and imperialism will have earned.

I say this all as someone living in the west myself- and frankly, if and when I get the hell out, I certainly would only ever, having experienced living in the west myself, caution and promote a distrust, disinvestment, and defensive if not outright hostile stance towards the west. As I see it, it’s the sad truth that I would like nothing more than to be false, and the only good advice one could ever give, knowing how the western imperial cores are like- what racist, supremacist, liberal, etc. poisons lurk within our societies, and what the nature of our institutions are, etc.

500 years of atrocities, culminating in decades of global hegemony and unmatched arrogance have wrought their toll on the west, and anyone claiming otherwise, or that it can be easily washed away, is naive. And this is alongside the nature of capitalism, and imperialism in particular, which dominates the west; the only sensible approach to these societies as I see it is one which forever watches its back, which constantly expects the worst (because either way, the worst will come to pass), which knows that no matter the present circumstances, one is dealing with- particularly in the western institutions and elite, rabid dogs which in will inevitably, in due time, attack and devour everything in their sight without restraint. These are societies whose contradictions drive them to, even when they are at the top of the world, cannibalize and destroy their own peoples in turn; these are societies that have been unable to change their core, imperialist, racist, monstrous character even over the course of centuries (with Russia as the exception proving the rule, and showing just how extensive the efforts must be even in a country which had never stooped to quite the same lows as its west European/Anglo peers, and even then how precarious the results also will be, in cleansing the colonial, or colonizer’s, mindset from their society).

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My thoughts as well but I was hesitant to put anything down without evidence. Who else would it be? Who benefits?

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Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack late on Friday, in a post on Telegram in which the group claimed its gunmen had managed to escape afterwards.

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How nice of ISIS to keep us in the loop like this.

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53 points

Looking forward to westerners justifying this at the same time they condemn Hamas violent resistance.

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32 points

People already are on Twitter. Disgusting behaviour.

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I am patiently waiting for that fat british liberal to defend Russia’s right to defend itself and condemn the terrorists behind this attack (he won’t even cover it).

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By our own logic, this is Oct. 7 for Russia so…

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Notably, US embassy made a statement that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts, and US citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours a couple of weeks ago.

https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-avoid-large-gatherings-over-the-next-48-hours/

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28 points

Real “I like you, don’t go to school tomorrow” energy in that

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Yeah well, “extremists” of what variety? Western media calls RDK “patriots who love their country and hate Putin”.

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Then why kill the people they love so much? This is obviously russophobic driven terrorism, the cowards are shooting indiscriminately at innocent people, you need to see them as animals to be able to do it that easily. Definitely organized by NATO/US.

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Then why kill the people they love so much?

i mean in the US every nazi terrorist attack has been shooting random people indiscriminately so

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I was pointing out the usage of language and its intersubjectivity to create narratives, I wasn’t insinuating it was RDK or Russian Neo-Nazis specifically.

In this context the usage of extremist is null if I’ve seen Western news articles call actual extremists patriots and omit their extremist ideology.

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15 points

I doubt any plan got delayed by 2 weeks if it was meant to happen immediately. There are a lot of angles here.

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25 points

I think that it’s almost certain that US is behind this given that Vicky the witch was just promising nasty surprises. These are the surprises.

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Did the US broadcast a public warning ahead of time as a flex?

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Why? US has delayed plans by months before. Who knows what operational reasons they might have had.

Also something of this scale the US probably didn’t want to directly tip its hand. So it warned people weeks in advance, specified a false timeline knowing most Americans likely to heed it anyways would probably avoid such gatherings for even longer than that.

Also could have been Ukrainian SBU, the certain parts of the US learned of it or were informed, issued that alert and maybe knowing their chances were worse with that alert out they rescheduled and tried to keep it from the Americans next time.

Edit: Now it’s being claimed it’s IS(IS) who is claiming responsibility. IS is an arm’s length plausibly deniable CIA proxy. They knew what they were going to do, but they may not have known when or had control of when as is the case with proxies (they may have even known when but tipping their hand caused a change in plans and had it pushed back). Needless to say even if one doesn’t accept IS as a CIA proxy, the US is ultimately responsible for the creation of the group and its power via their campaign against Assad. Thus the US is responsible once again for the deaths of many Russian civilians.

I would not be surprised if they try again with more, the US would love to turn Russia’s attention to Syria, to split it’s military operations between that and Ukraine to give Ukraine more time.

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It is not ISIS, Ukraine is attempting to shift attention https://t.me/rybar/58423

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This is what Victionary Nuland must have meant by “nasty surpises”.
Terrorist attacks.
She was talking about terrorist attacks.

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15 points

When did she say that?

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With this money [which is still pending in Congress] Ukraine will be able to fight back in the east, but it will also be able to accelerate the asymmetric warfare that has been most effective on the battlefield. And as I said in Kyiv three weeks ago, this supplemental funding will ensure Putin faces some nasty surprises on the battlefield this year.

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I would prefer not to jump to a conclusion, but the response from the Ukrainians is going to say it all. If they condemn the attack, then alright it was probably someone else…but if they insist it’s a false flag and that Russia just massacred their own people then they probably had a hand in it. Stand by for NAFO “memes” on the subject.

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but if they insist it’s a false flag and that Russia just massacred their own people

Bingo https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/105320

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18 points

Extremely non suspicious behavior to immediately come out and say “it wasn’t us!”

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Holy shit they’re stupid and they think they’re clever.

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5 points

Is NAFO still a thing? For one reason or another I don’t really see them anymore, was kind of hoping they’d largely moved on to their next Cause.

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8 points

I think they’re losing steam but they’re indeed around. There’s a lot more infighting now, because they can’t decide if they’re pro-Israel or not as a group. Also they can’t decide if terrorist attacks are good or bad depending on who it happens too.

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In my sporadic spree of Twitter trolling, ban evasions and sending death threats to Isisraeli supporters, yes NAFO indeed is even more active. Like if you accidentally kicked a cardboard box and tons of roaches scurry out from underneath it.

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5 points

Maybe my very pointed efforts to never ever engage with them finally had the intended effect of teaching The Algorithm to just shovel that shit where it belongs. Can’t say it will be missed.

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4 points

Unfortunately, yes.

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